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landorl
11-21-2009, 11:28 PM
OK, here is my issue. I have a map that I have done in Photoshop, and I like the colors that I have, but when I save it as a JPG, the colors are different. What am I doing wrong?

Here is a sample of what I am talking about. The first pic is the JPG output, and the green is jarring and ugly. The second is a screen shot with the accurate colors.

JoeyD473
11-22-2009, 12:56 AM
Try saving it as png, and see if the color loss is there as well.

Coyotemax
11-22-2009, 04:33 AM
Are you using "Save As" or are you using save to web? Not sure of all versions of photoshop, but one of the options in the save dialog for "save as" is a checkbox for colour profiles. Mine defaults to having it unchecked, and i've never had an issue with colour changes. perhaps that's what's happening? I also noticed one in the save for web dialog. it's called ICC profile in both places.. mine are unchecked.

Ramah
11-22-2009, 07:01 AM
But... they are both jpegs?

How do you normally overcome this then? Because I've never seen one of your maps with greens like the first image has (although I happen to quite like that colouring :) )

Gandwarf
11-22-2009, 07:51 AM
I can't help with this problem, but the second version looks very good!

And a map that contains one of the Dutch provinces (Friesland) is always cool :D

landorl
11-22-2009, 03:12 PM
I use the "Save As" command, and I have done it with ICC checked and with it not checked.

I have done some maps that has this problem before, and I have always gone back into the PS file and changed the colors until I got something that worked well enough.

I will try to save it again as a GIF using the "Save For Web" and see what happens.

Redrobes
11-22-2009, 03:49 PM
Weird. My first thought was that looks right like an ICC issue... The map wasn't created with an ICC profile. I don't think some of the JPG format saves ICC info - it might have been expanded tho. I thought maybe the save with to JPG which does not have it and save without one is the same thing. Try saving as TIFF and see by opening in the MS Picture Viewer to see if its alright.

Ascension
11-22-2009, 04:02 PM
Am I right in that you said the second image is a screenshot and the first one is the actual saved file? I'd say it's a monitor issue...looks like your monitor is a little bit lighter and grayer than what PS is using.

Ramah
11-22-2009, 04:42 PM
Or if it's like mine, the jpegs I save always seem to be different colours when viewed through Windows Picture Viewer. I'd have a mess around with the "Color Settings..." but it seems ok when viewed through Firefox as an attachment.

waldronate
11-22-2009, 04:49 PM
Make sure that you've calibrated your monitor for use with Photoshop. It has this annoying habit of tweaking the gamma as part of its startup, which means that your final image will not be the same as what you're working on.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WS88B4B4D2-E106-4506-A23C-DF9E6E84AE5C.html is the CS4 help page on the subject of color profiles and includes a section on monitor calibration.

Redrobes
11-22-2009, 04:50 PM
Looking at your images with an ICC enabled app makes a big difference. If the same JPG appears differently then its almost certainly that. Try looking at this web page...

http://www.color.org/version4html.xalter

and see what you get. If you get correct image then look at your images with this browser. Or else save the four images from the top pic and open with your image viewer and see what you get.

Windows Image Viewer does a pretty good job of viewing them ok. I would imagine that PS would too. PS being the pro app that it is has more options to save ICC profiles into images. Its likely to have more control and thus more chance that you will get it wrong. On the other hand the feeble apps will not even take into account the ICC then it will show it wrong.

For the record. If your not sure what ICC to use then either a) dont put one it or else b) (and this is more true if sending the pic to an external printer) put in the Adobe sRGB type.

landorl
11-23-2009, 11:47 AM
Wow, I learned something new. I opened it with the Windows Picture viewer, and it looks normal. When I use Irfanview (free program) it looks off, and when I look at it in Firefox, it looks off. I will have to figure out how to save it correctly.

landorl
11-23-2009, 11:59 AM
Well, I saved it "for web", and saved as JPEG high, and it worked. Here is what it should look like. I hope that what you see isn't bright green land and dark blue water, but it looks right for me.

Steel General
11-23-2009, 12:05 PM
Didn't check to see if this was mentioned earlier, but it appears your forest texture is 'tiling'. Might want to look at that.

Karro
11-23-2009, 01:01 PM
Ditto on the tiling forest. It looks like you have lines running straight up/down and left/right in them.

But no, the green isn't bright (like the green in the first jpeg you attached). It's a slightly washed-out muted green (nice). It looks very good, IMO, except for that strange forest issue.

landorl
11-23-2009, 02:17 PM
Until you pointed it out, I hadn't really noticed the tiling issue. I was so focused on other areas that I wasn't paying attention. Now I will have to fix that!

Carnifex
01-02-2010, 08:33 AM
Have you tried un-checking the ICC-profile checkbox when saving as JPG? Also follow RedRobes advices above regarding when to use a profile.