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Djekspek
11-30-2009, 07:42 AM
Totally inspired by some city-maps I found of some-one called GeneralVyse, I started mapping a large city. I decided to start without any layout and just let it grow while I draw ;) This small portion took me several hours but I'm getting the hang of the style now ...

Ascension
11-30-2009, 08:00 AM
Good start.

Steel General
11-30-2009, 09:12 AM
Looks pretty cool so far.

Davros01
11-30-2009, 04:50 PM
Promising beginning. I look forward to its development!

Djekspek
11-30-2009, 05:47 PM
thanks guys, i continued with the linedrawing and also did some first color experiments to check how this could look in color (no shades yet just some basic coloring). Slow progress and again it seems i got myself trapped into a "too-big-a-project" :P

Gandwarf
11-30-2009, 06:01 PM
Yep... that's a big project. I like what I am seeing so far. Try to keep up the good work :D

Ascension
11-30-2009, 07:00 PM
All cities are "too big of a project" by default...even small villages take a while. Once you finish one, though, you can really hang your hat on it and feel more accomplished.

Coyotemax
11-30-2009, 08:01 PM
Hah. You surprised a "Hot Dang!" out of me. that's coming along VERY nicely.

mearrin69
12-01-2009, 02:19 AM
That's looking majorly awesome. You will soon be the king of the hand-drawn genre if you keep that up. I want to copy you. Looking forward to seeing this one grow.
M

Steel General
12-01-2009, 07:02 AM
Normally I'm not a huge fan of the 'hand-drawn' style (maybe because I'm terrible at it :D), but I really like the way this is turning out.

After having finished (or nearly finished) several large city maps Ascension is indeed correct that they are all "too big of a project".

Vorhees
12-01-2009, 08:59 PM
Looking sweet, part of it looks Roman (which i like) and i like the hand drawn feel

Djekspek
12-02-2009, 03:47 PM
thanks guys. Roman style, sound cool to me (tbh i don't have the slightest knowledge on architecture ;) just scribbling along....
anyway, some more progress. loads of lines need to be improved and I'm trying to get the hang of hills/shades inside the city. Also the scale is not 100% ok everywhere so I may need to rescale some parts (tricky operation on a non-vector line-drawing). Also I'm coming to a point where I see certain buildings are not logical, like the big palace leading not out of the city and the 2nd harbor a bit too close to that palace. Also I need to find a place for some slumbers, not too close to the palace... I guess city-planning is something to take into account earlier next time ;)

mearrin69
12-02-2009, 05:07 PM
Needing improvement or not it's clear to see that it's going to be awesome. Waiting around until I can rep you again. LOL.
M

landorl
12-02-2009, 09:45 PM
I wish my mistakes looked that great. Beautiful map so far!

rdanhenry
12-03-2009, 01:18 AM
Maybe only the rich and middle class are within the city proper and the poor live outside the walls. That's particularly convenient in case of an uprising.

NeonKnight
12-03-2009, 11:16 AM
That is indeed a cool looking city.

Katto
12-04-2009, 03:52 PM
Can't wait to see the finished map. That looks really awesome!

Djekspek
12-06-2009, 08:07 PM
hi all, thanks for the nice C&C. The slumbers outside the wall is a good idea. I think i'll add them. For now I started experimenting more with coloring, texture and shading. I'm still way off where I want this to go, and maybe i'll redo it in brown/sepia kind of coloring. hmm... well, anyway here's an update. cheers

Ascension
12-06-2009, 08:37 PM
The grass looks great but I'm not sure that it works with the hand-drawn style of the city. On their own both styles look sweet but together I get a disconnect. No idea on how to make em work together, though, so just keep on keepin on. ;)

rdanhenry
12-07-2009, 12:31 AM
Wow. That looks like a lot of work. Some of the individual buildings appear quite complicated. I'm not sure I'd want to try floor plans for some of them to try to match the map. I'm fond of black and white for a lot of things, but the color really gives this some pizazz.

Juggernaut1981
12-07-2009, 05:48 PM
I'd be tempted to make the colouring either: pastel pencil-style or ink-brush style.

Djekspek
12-07-2009, 07:31 PM
thanks guys. I totally agree with you Ascension that the texture doesnt match the drawing style at all. I've been struggling with color schemes and can't really get it right yet :( Juggernaut, I'm not sure what you mean with pastel-pencil or ink-brush, maybe you have some example/reference? (hehe, am going crazy on this). Here 2 color-syles (the 2nd one is like the previous one but the textures softened out) am currently working on .. I also shaded each building... not there yet by long tho

Ascension
12-07-2009, 09:07 PM
The one on the left is visually striking and nice. The one on the right is also nice (I like em both equally) but the grass pattern has a repeat noticeable along the bottom...sort of an erased line or something running horizontally (probably from a smudged-edge pattern after off-setting for tiling).

Juggernaut1981
12-07-2009, 10:01 PM
Djek:

Pencil-ish style I meant
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/maps/1500s/1544agnese640.jpg

Painted style:
http://www.zazzle.com.au/pd/realviewpopup?url=http%3A%2F%2Frlv.zcache.com%2Fis api%2Fdesignall.dll%3Faction%3Drealview%26pdt%3Dpr int%26pending%3Dfalse%26pid%3D228316640192425722%2 6rvtype%3Dproduct%26view%3Dfront%26max_dim%3D836%2 6bg%3D0xffffff%26square_it%3Dtrue%26draw_relative_ size%3Dtrue%26dim%3D67.7522x51.2487in%26width%3D19 .8304%26height%3D15.0000%26unit%3Din%26size%3Dsmal l%26print_width%3D19.8304%26print_height%3D15.0000 %26media%3Dbasic_poster_dye%26drawareaboundingbox% 3Dfalse%26drawsafearea%3Dfalse%26sh%3D1%26zfct%3D1&dim=836

Something like these. I'm not saying change the style of your map in a fundamental way, just maybe change how you are filling the sections of the map.

mearrin69
12-08-2009, 12:12 AM
I'm voting for the one on the left. Looks sweet. I liked your brighter colors while you were working on it but I think the one on the left looks a bit more "high-scale" (as one friend of mine says).
M

bengaijin
12-08-2009, 12:23 AM
Very sweet map. The intricacy of the buildings really draws me in. I would second (or third) the vote for the one on the left, though I think that you need to dull the green of the palace gardens to a more olive tone. It still stands out a bit too much. At least on my monitor.

Some of the buildings are complete turret and dome insanity (not necessarily in a bad way). How do you see the architecture of this city appearing in elevation?

rdanhenry
12-09-2009, 02:38 AM
I agree: the one of the left is better, although both look good. With the muted colors, the city comes together as a whole, whereas the bright colors tend to break it up into individual buildings. I'd use the one of these on the right if I wanted to make that walled (palace?) complex prominent for some reason.

Djekspek
12-09-2009, 09:39 AM
Thanks guys. Juggernaut, that 1st one (pencil style) is exactly what i was looking for. First attempt was a disaster but i'll get it with some more practise :) . As for the architecture, tbh i havent given it much thought, maybe i'll do a little 3d model of one of the buildings... Just wish i had more time this month as i also want to enter the monthly competition but only have one week to finish that before my holidays.. guess i'll continue on this one next year :(

Jaxilon
12-10-2009, 12:07 PM
This is really nice man. I like the one on the left as well except I think I would prefer the water to have a blue tone. It looks pretty green to me but there are places that have green water so...

I just don't like green water which may have more to do with being involved in the swimming pool industry. Green tells me you probably have a phosphate issue :)

If you go green you could also try brown as there are lots of rivers that are muddy like that. Who knows, it might look good.

Good job man, I'm diggin it.

Lysnet
12-11-2009, 12:30 AM
How many people would you guys estimate can live in this place?

Diamond
12-14-2009, 11:18 PM
This is really nice man. I like the one on the left as well except I think I would prefer the water to have a blue tone. It looks pretty green to me but there are places that have green water so...

That is my opinion as well.

Damn this is a nice piece of work. Makes me want to try my own uber-city. I feel like if someone can inspire me to try and imitate them, I can't give 'em any higher compliment than that. :D

The Cartographist
12-23-2009, 11:04 AM
These maps are absolutely fantastic!

I, too, prefer the one of the left, but I like the water from the right map. Perhaps you could take the blue water from the right and use it on the map on the left?

Regardless, I LOVE the style. Brilliant.

Vorhees
12-23-2009, 07:04 PM
I like both styles nice work, nice layout as well , like the dominating Palace feature , it seems that the city would not be an over crowded one either plenty of room to roam around.