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    The math for the second star should be right. And it pretty much should just be a constant 9 K increase for the whole planet. Doing some sketches, sometimes the second star would cause seasons to be more mild, sometimes more extreme. It would go on a very slow cycle though. Hundreds of years if not longer for it to change from extreme to mild (per hemisphere). Given how minor the change is, it's probably best to just ignore it except for "cool second star in the sky" kind of stuff.
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    I'm going to do some analysis for the precipitation map to verify that it's not so bad. Combined with the temperature
    By continent:


    North east:

    The south shore:
    January: very wet
    cool to cold
    July: moderate
    very hot to hot (it is at 30 degrees latitude after all)
    the climate is classified Csa (more or less) (nice, the climate falls into an area that I considered impossible in terms of precipitations)
    But the localization make sense

    West shore:
    Jan: moderate (due to the orographic lift effect)
    cold to very cold (mountains are colder)
    Jul: wet (polar front)
    warm to mild
    Dwb/Dwc (even if these climates are usual found in the west ?)

    East shore
    Jan: moderate/wet
    very cold to severely cold
    Jul: low
    mild to cool
    Dsc (again it should be the opposite, maybe it's because of the mountains ?)

    Bay
    Jan: dry/low depending on the area
    cold
    Jul: dry
    warm
    cold desert Bwk (hum, I guess)

    Interior
    Jan: dry
    under -25
    Jul: dry (very wet in the west)
    mild to cool at lower altitudes, always under 0 at higher altitudes
    Dfc/Dfd at lower altitude, Ice cap elsewhere

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    Considering that the orbit of the second star is a prefect circle the minimum distance between the star and the planet is 75 AU and the maximum is at 77 AU. I don't expect a large variation of temperature out of this.
    But it is most likely not a circle and the variation should be greater but i agree that it's better to just don't get too much into details.



    Some more info on climates:

    Central north continent:

    South shore:
    January: wet
    cool
    July: moderate
    hot
    Probably Cfa

    North shore:
    January: moderate
    Very cold-severly cold
    July: wet
    Mild
    Dfc

    West shore
    Dfb

    East:
    Moderate low
    Cold warm
    Dfb ? very similar to the west coast

    Interior:
    Dry/ dry and low
    Very cold hot
    Bwk Cold desert (for the most part)


    Westernmost continent:
    Always moderate to wet
    January: mild
    July: very hot
    Cfa (it’s overly simplified)
    The east receives less rain and could become a steppe


    Central continent:

    North:
    winter: hot/ dry
    summer: warm hot/ very wet
    Am/Aw

    South
    summer: very hot/ wet
    winter: mild/ low dry
    Cwa

    The closer we get to the center of the continent the lower are the precipitations. The center could be a hot desert with some hot steppes surrounding it.


    East south continent (Falconia?)

    South coast:
    Summer:warm/hot
    moderate
    Winter: cold/very cold
    Wet
    Dfa/Dfb (southern part)

    Archipelago: Dfa/Cfa (north east)

    North coast:
    Summer:very hot/hot
    Winter: hot/warm
    Always relatively wet
    Af tropical rainforest

    West coast
    Summer:very hot
    Winter: mild
    Always wet
    Cfa

    Interior:
    Summer:very hot/severely hot moderate/wet
    Winter: mild dry
    Bsh hot steppe

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    Ok I can confirm that the temperature table is working well but the precipitation table is still awful.

    About the water I had a idea for some time. It a possible series of natural/human made canals for navigation. Some are more plausible than others
    CWBP 2: World Map construction thread-waterway.jpg

    I finished cleaning up the map (Some parts where blurry, not anymore). And added some details.
    CWBP 2: World Map construction thread-cwbp2-landmasses-clean.jpg

    Png version:
    CWBP 2: World Map construction thread-cwbp2-landmasses-clean.png

    I also did some map for the ice sheets (really rough just for fun)

    January
    Attachment 66751
    July
    Attachment 66752

    Next I will clean up the elevation map and improved it at the same time. i dont plan adding more elements, just make it look more pleasant.
    Attachment 66753

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azelor View Post
    Next I will clean up the elevation map and improved it at the same time. i dont plan adding more elements, just make it look more pleasant.
    Attachment 66753
    Go for it if you enjoy doing so, but it seem labourious for something not really necessary.

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    Alright here's the watersheds and rivers. The watershed is indicated by the light blue line, water flows away from this and eventually towards the ocean. The thick deep blue line indicate expected major rivers. Again these represent areas a hundred kilometres across at least, so while the rivers can be found within these areas, they do not conform to the area. Nor does it represent a limitation on rivers, just expected major ones, there could easily be major rivers not indicated, and doubtless will be many regular rivers all over the damn place.
    CWBP 2: World Map construction thread-wtershed-overlay.jpg

    The clean PNG:
    CWBP 2: World Map construction thread-maj-river_wtershed.png

    Edit: I relize I forgot to account for Wilbur's tendancy to keep everything seperate, some rivers might have joined up earlier. I'll look at it when I get home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falconius View Post
    Alright here's the watersheds and rivers. The watershed is indicated by the light blue line, water flows away from this and eventually towards the ocean. The thick deep blue line indicate expected major rivers. Again these represent areas a hundred kilometres across at least, so while the rivers can be found within these areas, they do not conform to the area. Nor does it represent a limitation on rivers, just expected major ones, there could easily be major rivers not indicated, and doubtless will be many regular rivers all over the damn place.
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    Edit: I relize I forgot to account for Wilbur's tendancy to keep everything seperate, some rivers might have joined up earlier. I'll look at it when I get home.
    Not bad, it's pretty close to my expectations.

    It does look pretty. You where wondering why the north east was so dry. Heck, it's probably higher than the Himalaya. Let's call it the mountain continent. (But in another language ideally)
    Attachment 66791

    Wooho, my 1000th post !
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    You need development for names and details of races and cities? I'd love to help out somehow.
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    That is looking good, it may just be worth the extra effort you are putting in.

    Corilliant, you are welcome to develop whatever you wish for the world in whatever capacity, be it stories, civilizations, or even a lists of names for a country. I might suggest that you start a new thread for each module you wish to develop with the tag "CWBP 2" in the beginning of the thread title. For example: "CWBP 2: The History of Heurvale and its Environs" or "CWBP 2: A Brief Summery of Plaje; A Guide Book" or "CWBP 2: The Fluara and Fauna of Gaster" etc. Also include the plot number in brackets eg. "CWBP 2: The History of Heurvale and its Environs (4)" The same will be done for mapping development threads eg "CWBP 2: Map of Gaster (6)" where "(6)" indicates the plot number.

    Keep in mind the rough guidelines which still have not been collated into a brief, but which can be found in these threads: CWBP 2: Magic in our world, CWBP 2 : Era and Technology, CWBP 2 : Determining the genre and era, CWBP 2: Overview and Outline of Current Activity regarding the New Co-op Project
    Some of these (such as my neglected overview thread may be out of date so try and take note of the post date. Also keep in mind that if you want to apply your changes to a specific area of the map, you should claim that plot for development even if you are not making a map of it, and then when done it will be released for mapping with your information attached. ie if you claim plot 4 and write background for it but don't map it, the information will be tagged to plot 4 so if someone comes in to map it they use your information to form the country.

    Also keep in mind that plot size ideally should be kept around 5oo km square give or take a few hundred (actually its the upper limit we'd like to maintain, people may develop plots as small as they wish). That too should be reflected in the information developed for plots, so information is geared specifically for a territory, as opposed to general continent or world wide information.

    Speaking of plots I think its time that we should open up the map for the land grab, Azelor.

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    It's okay to post here in the Guild as long as it's related to mapping. But once we get into world description, I'm not sure we should continue to post it here. It might become inappropriate to post a large number of messages unrelated to cartography.

    Luckily we have a wiki (kinda) CWBP2 Wiki

    I'm not sure how reliable it is, so I suggest that we keep the mapping part here.

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