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    Quote Originally Posted by Chashio View Post
    It is nicer with the jagged coastlines, and no dirt. Did you intend for the deeper islands to have black sand around their edges? Just pointing out that it's different from the rest of the map, not necessarily bad. Um, your mountains... =) haha (as a last resort, you could try inverting the layer). I'm not sure what style/process the tutorial follows, but you could always draw them by hand, too, with various brush-style settings. That's my habit, but it's not to everyone's liking.
    Yes, I much prefer the jagged coastline an no dirt. I don't know what happened with the black beaches, I guess the residents will just have to put up with black volcanic sand beaches like Tenerife! I'm gonna have another go at mountains today, I was toying with the idea of cutting and pasting mountains onto the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arsheesh View Post
    Looking good so far Holdenburg. I'm not too familiar with Rob's method for blending the sea colors between deep and coastal hues, but one quick method for doing this, is to create a sea color layer below your land and set it's color to a dark blue, then create a new layer on top of that for the shallow water, and fill it wit a lighter shade of blue. then create a selection of your land, invert it and, on the shallow water layer, hit "delete". This should delete all the color covering the sea but leaving the portion just beneath the land mass colored. Now turn off the selection and then apply a Gaussian blur to the shallow water layer. I'd experiment with px on the Gaussian blur and perhaps try duplicating the layer till you end up with something you like.

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    Being a layer mask evangilist, I would suggest a layer mask instead. There are two ways, I would suggest the first:
    • Very bottom layer, fill with the darker blue color
    • Second layer from bottom, fill with lighter blue
    • Make a selection of all the land(or all the "sea")... I typically turn off all of the layers except the outline one.
    • (this step is optional, but highly recommended so you have a "copy" of your layer mask before the next step, so if you want to get back to a base line, you can do so much easier)Select Selection->Selection to Channel(I am doing this from memory, so the exact wording is likely off a bit). This creates a "Channel" on the Channel tab.. make sure you give it a name that makes sense to your context such as "Land Outline". IMPORTANT!!!! depending on if you selected the land or the sea in the previous step, you may need to do Selection->Invert... you want to make sure that your Channel has BLACK for the land and white for the sea when you create the channel(and you can even do it twice and create two channels with each and inverse of the other if you want)
    • Right click on the second layer from the bottom and select Add Layer Mask, adding the newly created channel(again, making sure that you pick the one with the white part where the sea is)
    • Selection->None(make sure nothing is selected in the main image window!!!)
    • On the layers dialog tab/window/whateveryouwannacallit, click the layer mask that you just created(not just that layer "row", but the mask which will show as a B/W box to the right of the blue water color this layer is filled with.
    • use Filters->Gaussian Blur to suite
    • as needed, you could also pick a grunge style brush with white color selected and the airbrush tool to paint a bit more of the "sea" with white which will show more of the darker blue below.
    • Make sure you click OFF of the layer mask before going any further
    • Put all the other layers above these two.


    Alternate:
    • Very bottom layer, fill with the darker blue color
    • Second layer from bottom, fill with lighter blue
      • Add layer mask to the second bottom layer filled with black
      • Select an appropriate brush size, preferably a nice fuzzy brush
      • Select the airbrush tool
      • On the Second layer from the bottom in the Layers dialog window, click OFF of the main layer part and click ONTO the layer mask itself.
      • lightly "paint" the white onto the black layer mask. Everywhere the white is on the layer mask, the layer below will show through. Make sure that you overlap the mainland by a decent margin
      • right click and select "Mask to Selection"(this step is optional, but highly recommended so you have a "copy" of your layer mask before the next step, so if you want to get back to a base line, you can do so much easier)... this creates a "Channel" on the Channel tab.. make sure you give it a name that makes sense to your context such as "Land Outline"
      • While still having the layer mask selected, use Filters->Gaussian Blur to suite
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    Wow. That's confusing... might try it myself and see how it works. I avoid channels like the plague but, I never really understood them.

    My coastal mask system: When I create my coastlines, I magic wand the water (still just lines on a transparent layer) and inverse my selection (cuts down on choosing individual islands), make a new layer (name it land mass), fill my selection with a color, deselect, and reduce the opacity so it doesn't mess with my color-picking, and put it near the bottom of the layer list. My coastline and river and mountain layers, etc, go near the top, and any 'background painting' like watercolor, goes just above my paper layer. So when I need to paint on just the land or water, I click to my land mass layer and magic wand the one I want to paint on, click back to my painting layer and have at it. (there's probably a much easier way to do it, but it works

    How I would paint the water two-toned like that is make two solid fill layers, select my land mass (like above) and for both of the fill layers, cut the land section away so it's just blue on the water (or opposite, select water area then fill). Then click to the top of the two layers and use the erase tool on varying opacity to get the effect I want. When that's done, I usually adjust those layer opacity, or change the layer styles, so that the paper texture shows through and it looks more like watercolor.

    Just another way to go about it. =) I look forward to your mountains. Cutting and pasting is basically the same as making a brush for it. That works too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chashio View Post
    Wow. That's confusing... might try it myself and see how it works. I avoid channels like the plague but, I never really understood them.
    RUN, don't walk to the tutorial in my sig.. It's really simplistic, but will give you the basics. If you want something a big more in depth, you can search for threads started by me and "some creek thing"(I think that's the name of it) which has several videos(not great quality though and no voice) that walk through some of the steps as it's being done. That probably should have been in the tutorials forum, but it's not for some reason... I have actually thought about remaking the videos now that GIMP 2.8 is out, but just have not gotten the time yet.
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    @jfrazierjr Thanks, I'll check those out... and the ISO mountains been playing with that, too.

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    I have created a political map for my Kingdom, showing the Provinces and Emirates.

    [WIP] My first map, Kingdom of St Samuel-politicalmap.png

    I tried and failed big time with the mountains and was kindly helped by waldronate, who did the mountains for me. I'm very happy with his work.

    [WIP] My first map, Kingdom of St Samuel-ststopmap.jpg

    Next up, rivers.

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    Cool shields. =D I might have to make some of those for myself. The mountains look nice too; did he follow the tutorial or just do them his own way?

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