Thread: Greetings from a Map Freak Humbled

That's a great map to start out with. Welcome to the site! It's great to have people come out from lurking to get involved. Now woth a map like that you certainly deserve some rep.

I'm sure that you've seen the tutes, but I'd suggest that you dive in and give some of them a try. What software do you have access to? I'm sure with the ability to hand draw maps like that you'll get a lot of value from the tutes.

Welcome Aboard!

Welcome to the Guild!

Many of us use hand-drawn work in conjunction with software - I do with Xara Xtreme as my app of choice, so you don't have to forget about hand-drawing. Some of us have drawing tablets which let them "hand-draw" right into their app of choice. Check out any of Torstan's maps, that's what he does, but uses The GIMP software (open source image editor). While many lack the skill in hand-drawing, knowing the various techniques in applications like CC3, The GIMP, Photoshop, CorelDraw, Adobe Illustrator, Inkscape and a host of other apps, making great maps can be done if you learn the right techniques.

As Torstan mentioned, jump into the tutorials and start using them, they'll teach you lots of techniques with whatever software you are using. Many have mentioned that The GIMP tutorials offer more education on using that app, then any other tutorial - and these tuts are about mapping only.

Lots to see and do - check out our monthly challenges, the next Lite Challenge has just started so maybe join in and try designing a map with a specific theme in mind and a 25 day restriction on when the map must be completed. Its a great way to learn software.

Nice map - have some REP!

GP

The stuff I've been toying around with was CC3 and Photoshop CS2. I'm not really familiar with Photoshop on the grand scheme of things, and I bought CC3 to see how that would work out. I like the symbols, and stuff, but it feels cartoonish. I think I might keep going with PS if I can work past the whole layers, noises, and windows, and all that other jazz. I've been sifting through the tutorials on it. I can't help but feel addicted to pen, paper, and colored pencils. It's crazy. But I'm determined to evolve.

Generic CC3 is rather cookie-cutter and cartoonish - that's true. However, that's if you're using the default symbols that come with CC3, looking at Gandwarf's stuff, he uses symbols and textures that don't come with CC3 and he makes maps that don't look like they were created in CC3. As far as Photoshop maps go, I'd say jump right into one the PS tutorials - stick with it all the way through. Even if its a style you're not going after, the Tut will teach you the different tools, windows, features so you can create the style you really want.

Me, I hand-draw my line work only. All coloring, texturing, etc is done digitally in my app of choice. If you're proficient with hand-drawing (and I see that you are) stick with that, but then use a software app to enhance the final effect. Remember I do this professionally for various RPG publishers, in addition to my own setting and personal games. Major publishers prefer hand-drawn work versus the photorealistic satelite styled maps so popular in this forum. The young, new publishers like the satelite stuff though.

I have CC3 though I don't use it at all.

Jump into a tutorial and start there, I think that's the best approach for you.

GP

Thanks for the advice. I'll give the Photoshop tutorials another go. When you say you hand draw the line work, do you mean the outlines of the land?

I create maps using hand-drawn line work for all the line work - land, rivers, mountains, hills, forests, roads, even surface detail on the land showing changes in height.

Here's some links to some of my maps that I'm talkin' about (these are links to threads that contain those maps):

September Challenge map entry (winner): September Entry: Archean League

June Challenge map entry (winner):
June Entry: Assassin's Lair

Here's a Tolkien styled regional map:
http://www.gamer-printshop.com/kaidan/slavers.jpg

Look at my challenge entry for this month:
June Entry: Assassin's Lair

Or last month:
http://www.cartographersguild.com/sh...omancer-s-Lair

Or the December challenge entry:
http://www.cartographersguild.com/sh...ntry-Yuleblood

Here's a commission village map I created last month:
http://www.cartographersguild.com/sh...uild-Companion

I could go on and on - I create lots of maps!

Does this help you understand?

GP

I understand. And in the tradition of Wayne's World, "I am not worthy! I am not worthy!" I think I'll follow your approach to mapping. Thanks for your advice.

One thing that a lot of us use is a graphics tablet. That lets you draw in photoshop precisely as if you were using pen and paper. it actually feels really natural indeed - and a Wacom Bamboo is pretty inexpensive these days.