Thnx but i can't really call my work great because i used techniques posted by other people and just experimented with a lot of crap. I can't write a guide as alot of my stuff has been learned from other people's tutorials, i can only claim a few techniques as mine, and so i'd just be copying them, but i can point you towards what tuts i did use for various parts of my maps. Still even without any tuts i learned that the best way to get the hang of map-making is to experiment, i make several UGLY changes to my maps in an attempt to try and get something to look right, i actually spend most of my time undoing these ugly mistakes. -D-