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    Question A couple of Overland map and printing questions

    Hey all,

    Pretty new to all of this, but enjoying the site. I had a couple of questions that I was hoping to get some advice on.

    I recently created an overland map using CC3 with the intent of having it printed poster-sized. I was going to use Gamer-Printshop to do it and so downloaded the print tutorial and created it in the proper dimensions for an 18x24 wall map. While I'm no expert at cartography, I'm very happy with how it turned out. Unfortunately for me, I used one of the Cartographer Annual sets to make the map. While it looks 1000 times better to me than using the standard style that comes with CC3, I've learned from this site that Gamer-Printshop doesn't like printing CC3 much to begin with, and can't print anything other than the default CC3 style.

    I figured that since I have to re-do it to get it printed anyway, and since I have no alternate idea of who would print a CC3 map in a large format, I might commission someone to re-do the map for me in a program that makes it easier to get it printed - I figured someone who's a good mapper would take what I made and make it better than anything I could do. it's on this line of thinking that I have a few questions:

    1) What program would you recommend me having this redone in?

    2) Are there alternate printing avenues for large-sized world maps that I can use?

    3) What is the sort of fee someone might charge to do something like this?

    Cheers guys, and thanks for your help -

    Moorcrys

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    1. Depends sometimes on the style you are looking for. For most maps I think Gimp &/ Photoshop are good tools.

    2. Doesnt good copyshop offer plotterprints of largescale Files? I am from germany and they do have such offers if you look around a bit. You life in NY? Try the Printed Matter shop there could be someone who can help.

    3. Would be interesting what the veterans here on CG would answer.

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    I recently printed my star map at a local photo shop (not copyshop, but I guess those probably offer the same services). A1 size cost me 20 Euro (guessing about 28 US$), I think A0 was 30 Euro but don't hold me to that. Do a smaller scale test print first; I got something the size of roughly A3 for 4€ done as a test. I recommend using matte photo paper, not glossy. They should be able to handle just about any bitmapped file format - mine was perfectly happy to eat PNG but since I had both PNG and JPEG the staff picked the JPEG. (For that format, ensure to save at zero-compression JPEG, of course.) It's very important that your graphic has a high-enough resolution, or it will just end up looking crappy. I am not an expert but mine is 200dpi and it looks great; I am guessing 150 dpi is the minimum you should go for.

    As for comission rates, post in the mapping request forum, or find guild members whose style you like, and ask them directly if they do comissions and at what rates. Last but not lest I think there was a discussion on comission rates in a general forum somewhere some months ago, you could search for that.

    Last but niot least, software... eh. Personal choice, I'd say! Photoshop, Illustrater etc are all very expensive unless you can buy a student version, so free alternatives are probably what you want to look into. However, as long as your software can export to a bitmap format, you are good to go. Personally, I do most of my work in Inkscape, but I've recently started to add GIMP to the mix. As with so many things in life, there's no one right answer; the choice of tools depends on what exactly you are trying to do.

    Hope this helps.

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    CC3 can export a PNG, which Gamerprinter is able to print from. I am not sure if there is a size limit on the export, but I do know that it will take a long time to render it. The CC3 render engine isn't terribly efficient. It will look like it's locked up, but give it time. I'd even suggest setting it to render overnight, as it's not unheard of for it to take hours for some large exports.

    For a poster print, 150 dpi is probably sufficient unless you have some fine detail to preserve. At 18 x 24, that would be 2700 x 3600 pixels, which is not an unreasonable size even for CC3.
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    Hey guys,

    Thanks so much for your advice on these questions, I really appreciate it. I'll try to do a PNG export and see how it turns out - otherwise I'll move on to plan B or C. You guys are great.

    Thanks again!
    Moorcrys (Jeff)

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