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    How weird. Hopefully these work:

    Fantasy World Map-ae-small.jpg
    Fantasy World Map-ae-detail.jpg
    Fantasy World Map-ae-full.jpg

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    I don't really understand the double graticules here.
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    Okay, a bit more explanation and two more images to hopefully make it clearer:

    Centered Graticule
    The reason for using the Azimuthial Equidistant projection for this map is that distances measured from (or through) the focal point are always consistent (with no distortion), and always show the most direct route possible. This means that you can take a ruler and line up the focal point and any other point on the map, and know the exact distance between those two points. In many situations this property isn't that useful, but I think it makes sense for a map centred on a major trading city - it would allow people to easily find the fastest routes to various trading partners across a wide area.

    While that use case would work without any graticule for guidance, I thought it would make sense for one to be added in the right place. This graticule is centred on the trading city. Travelling along the radiating lines to any point is the shortest distance possible. I've added parallels every 100 miles, since the slowest trading ships (equivalent to East Indiamen) would cover that on an average day. For those ships, each concentric circle marks a day's travel, which would also be a really useful piece of information imo.

    Fantasy World Map-ae-graticule-centered.jpg

    Polar Graticule
    However, only having that centered graticule would render the map completely useless for finding bearings when you're anywhere other than the focal point. The shortest routes shown by the centred graticule do not follow consistent bearings, so while you'd be travelling in a straight line your compass heading would change. The polar graticule is essential for the purpose of finding a bearing at any location other than the focal point, so logically it would need to be included.

    Fantasy World Map-ae-graticule-polar.jpg

    If it doesn't make sense I've got no problem changing it though
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    I guess everyone is either ambivalent towards the graticules or they're too confused to comment. I think I'll just pretend that everyone thought it was a great idea

    I really should be doing work, but it's so hard to get motivated when I can play with this instead

    Update
    I've added a good portion of the terrain on the main continent, including the plateau in the center (top of the map), and the edge of the southern desert(top left). I've also added one river system, a city near the mouth of that river and labeled both of them and some of the mountain ranges.

    Fantasy World Map-detail.jpg

    In addition to the above (and some other topographical labels), I've tentatively named the main country "Aestura" and one of the capital cities "Sinoastio". For all the names, I ran latin words through a customised phonetic filter (using this), since I wanted it to sound somewhere between latin and it's children. I'm fairly happy with the results, though it'll probably change a fair bit in the future, and any feedback is welcome as always. For example, Aestura is a contraction of "summer" and "grain field", while Sinoastio is a contraction of "river mouth" and "bay".

    I've also added a border to the map. The markers need a bit of explanation, which I've put in a spoiler below since it's unusual but not really that interesting... I've also increased the image size to A1 at 300dpi, making it over 10,000 by 7,000 pixels. I may come to regret that decision. I haven't re-processed the coastlines' waves yet, since that'll probably crash my computer at this size.

     
    This civilisation writes (and conceptualises) numbers in base 12, rather than base 10. As an example, this means that the number 123 written in their language would actually be 3 + 2*12 + 1*12*12 = 3 + 24 + 144 = 171 instead of 3 + 2*10 + 1*10*10 = 123. Base 12 is more useful in many situations than base 10 because it allows for much more flexible use of fractions. I should probably come up with a way to differentiate the letter forms for numbers, since both would exist in the world, but I've not got to that yet - advice on that would be appreciated!

    Base 12 is also applied to the number of degrees in a circle. Instead of dividing it into a scale totalling 360°, split into 60', split into 60", it's divided into 12°, split into 12', split into 12". I've used a superscript ø instead of ° to mark Aesturan degrees, though it's not very clear and would ideally not be needed at all if I can work out a way to differentiate the number forms instead. That means that 1ø = 30°, and 1ø' = 2.5° (which are the measurements marked on the map). Smaller measurements than the ø" would be measured in either fractions of a minute or miles.


    Medium Resolution (5000px x 3595px)
    Fantasy World Map-medium-res.jpg

    Low Resolution (2000px x 1438px)
    Fantasy World Map-low-res.jpg

    I'm not 100% happy with the river at the moment, it feels a bit intrusive. Admittedly that's what I wanted - where they're a significant barrier to people I want them to be noticeable - I'm just not sure if it works yet. I guess that'll become obvious once more stuff has been added...
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    I still think that the double graticules is a bit odd and confusing on the map I Like your reliefs though when zoomed in, the effect/texture looks a bit too digital maybe.

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    Lol okay, I'll take it out

    This look okay to you?

    Low Resolution
    Fantasy World Map-low-res.jpg

    Medium Resolution
    Fantasy World Map-medium-res.jpg

    All I've done is hide the second graticule (except for a tiny bit of it around the centre to indicate the centre of the map) and reduce the texture
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    Hmm so I think it comes from the effect you use to make the relief rather than the texture :/ Anyway it's personnal taste so if you like it go with it!

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    I very much like your mountains! Care to share your technique? They're both minimalistic AND freakin' hot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by - Max - View Post
    Hmm so I think it comes from the effect you use to make the relief rather than the texture :/ Anyway it's personnal taste so if you like it go with it!
    Haha okay, I'd probably have to remake them completely to fix that then, think I'll just leave it

    Quote Originally Posted by Caenwyr View Post
    I very much like your mountains! Care to share your technique? They're both minimalistic AND freakin' hot!
    Thanks! It's dead simple really, I did it using Photoshop's layer styles but it could probably be done in GIMP/Paint.net too.

    Step 1
    The first step is to create a new layer - which I imaginatively named "Mountains" - and apply a Colour Overlay layer style that matches the background of the page behind the mountains. Mine is an off-white grey, #eeeeee.

    Fantasy World Map-1-colour-overlay.jpg

    Step 2
    The next step is to add some layer styles, which combine to create the effect. The screenshots show the settings I used, changing them will give slightly different results so playing around with them can be pretty fun.

    Bevel and Emboss
    The bevel and emboss settings control the height of the mountain (Depth and Size), the angle of the light, and the harshness of the highlights and shadows.

    Fantasy World Map-2-bevel.jpg

    Contour
    The contour controls how harsh the peaks of the mountains are. I've set this to a low percentage, since that creates harsher peaks.

    Fantasy World Map-3-contour.jpg

    Texture
    The texture makes the peaks slightly less harsh, and makes them feel a little more like they're painted on a page. It's good to mess around with these, different patterns and depths give loads of different effects.

    Fantasy World Map-4-texture.jpg

    Step 3
    The final step is to use the brush tool and paint the mountains. I've used one of the presets bundled with this (awesome) brush set - the one shown in the image below. The key things you want from your brush are a bit of a texture and fairly soft edges, I just found that this particular brush worked really well. The colour you use is irrelevant due to the colour overlay, I use black so it stands out when I want to look at the layer without the styles.

    Fantasy World Map-5-brush-preset.jpg

    Low Altitudes
    I painted in two stages, starting with lower altitudes. For this, I set my brush to something like 15% opacity, and then just painted over and over until it looked right. I paint with the layer effects on so I can see the result, but I've also included screenshots of what the layer looks like without them so you can compare the results.

    Fantasy World Map-6-low-altitude.jpgFantasy World Map-7-low-altitude.jpg

    High Altitudes
    The second stage is the higher altitudes, which bring a bit more scale to the mountains. I just increase the opacity, to something like 50%, and paint over the top of the existing stuff.

    Fantasy World Map-8-high-altitude.jpgFantasy World Map-9-high-altitude.jpg
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    This is coming along really nicely, the mountains are very cool! For me, the double graticules weren't confusing, I quite like the idea actually, but there is/was a problem with them. If you're using an azimuthal projection, the meridians are only straight lines if the projection is centered on a pole. If it's centered anywhere else, they become curved. The secondary graticule would be drawn like you did it though, if the projection is centered on Sinoastio. If you bring it back, I'd suggest to make them different somehow; lineweight, transparency, color, something to make them easy to tell appart.

    The river is nicely made, I like how it gets fainter, but there's a discontinuity in detail level for me; you show tons of tiny tributaries, but the curves of the river are very simplified. I think it needs to be more squiggly

    The labeling is really good, I might add. I always have trouble with that. It's very clean and nice. Though the floating Aestura label looks quite out of place, when no other labels float.

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