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    Meridius,

    Thanks again for some awesome comments. They are really helpful! I will also be coming back to these, and most people seem to think a single room would be best, so I'll probably be switching to that. These will be 'generic fantasy setting' but I really appreciate you giving me more to think about--making maps more intentionally designed is something I need to work on (rather than just throwing shapes in and saying 'well, that looks good enough.' More buckets is absolutely a good idea. And removing the rugs, yeah, I even thought that as I was making them. These will be placeable and rotatable (to slap into a town with the other buildings I've made) so I'll leave alignment to whoever puts them together. I will have to add toilets/holes in the ground. Everyone seems to get excited about those!

    These aren't meant to be Asian in any way. I actually just happen to be working in South Korea as an English teacher at the moment--I am a Chicagoan in origin, which hopefully explains my unfamiliarity with older structures--America ain't got too many of those...
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    Lol, I tried to base something of your current location. But while you're at it, grab the chance and try and locate some older structures in Korea, there's bound to be some there! It's almost a sin not to take inspirational/reference pictures

    I'm an Archaeology student, and it makes me look at fantasy-mapping a little bit different.

    By the way, looking at 17th century homes or buildings (of which there SHOULD be some in the US) would be pretty close to your average medieval home. Different perhaps, but still close. And even the US without it's medieval history is bound to have some museums on the topic.

    I don't know if I said this before, but while not entirely logically arranged, your hovels still look GREAT!

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    Another low cost building material that was used in some parts of the world was straw bales, sealed and covered in a render inside and out. The straw acted as insulation too. The walls were 2-3 feet thick, which might make an interesting visual effect on your maps.
    Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work I go..

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    Meridius - I have been doing a lot of travelling through Asia for the past couple years and am indeed visiting as many ancient structures as I can, though they are primarily temples palaces and Wats... not too many residential areas, though I just visited the Korean National Museum which did have a huge section on ancient homes--stilted, straw structures (say that five times fast) which will probably pop up in one of my maps at some point!

    Sounds to me like you're going to be a valuable member to the guild! It's always nice to have people who actually know what they're talking about. Feel free to tear into my maps any chance you get!

    Aval - that sounds super cool but I don't think I trust my artistic abilities to be able to successfully communicate something that neat/complex! I'll have to practice more...

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    I remember seeing a documentary about when shops first went 'self service' (that is the wares being put in front of the counter rather than behind it). I think it was in the 1950's. Shopkeepers were very reluctant because they thought that the customers would just pinch stuff.

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    @Aval Penworth
    Straw has indeed been used as a building material since prehistoric times... straw bales are a much more recent invention though. Wikipedia says it's a 20th century invention, though I've seen a 19th century machine making them... I think bales are something from the 18th / 19th century.

    @RecklessEnthusiasm
    I'm a bit envious about your travels through Asia. It sounds like an impressive experience.

    And I'm glad I can be of help. If you (anyone) ever have an archaeology-related question (especially about North-western Europe) please do ask! We're here to help each other. And I'll be glad to share some knowledge, if any is available. I won't pretend I know everything, or even a lot about archaeology, but probably more than most people due to it probably going to end up as my job And I'll be glad to help better the general understanding of how people lived in the past.

    @ravells
    I believe a grocer invented the first supermarket, which if memory serves where the first ever self-service shops.

    One thing should be remembered though, while actual archaeology is fun to incorporate, and might lend some extra believability, we shouldn't forget that we create fantasy worlds/continents/regions/cities/buildings... There might ALWAYS be some fantastical reason stuff works differently in fantasy. That's a part of what makes map-making so much fun.

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    Hi there! Thanks a bunch, my friend. I am still learning, myself. I use Genetica for textures and do the rest of the work in PS. Once I refine my technique a bit, maybe I can make a tutorial, but unless you have any specific questions about technique, I am not sure where to start...

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    When I think of a hovel ..... I think of some of the places I have seen in Bangkok or other places in SE Asian. The Slums of Kong Toi the hovels are about 15' x 15' most do not have windows, some only have 3 walls and its open too the front. I even seen a huge slum the was placed over the water ......... 1000's of hovels built on posts sunk into the water and cat walks and things linking everyone together. Now that I think about it , it would be a very interesting map too make.

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