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    One thing I would suggest is to get filimage and add into GIMP. It produces far better cloud results than the native GIMP Render Clouds filter(which produces some funky artifacts that are much more visible in a bump map of the clouds).. Other than that, it looks pretty good..
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    jfrazierjr,

    I'm confused. Are you referring to the image that I posted? It was generated by Celestia, not by Gimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selden View Post
    jfrazierjr,

    I'm confused. Are you referring to the image that I posted? It was generated by Celestia, not by Gimp.
    Sorry that was not clear... I was referring to the original poster who (at least per his profile as well as tutorial mentions) is using GIMP.... not your post... cool planet render btw....
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    Selden - I downloaded Celestia, but I don't think my computer can handle it... after about five seconds I get a 'celestia has stopped working' message.. Does anyone know of any other 3d applications I could use to wrap my image onto a sphere? Or Selden, is that a known issue with the program?

    and toJfrazierjr, thankyou, I got the plugin and my noise is looking far better

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    Mind=Blown.

    I'm a GIMP map newb myself and this blows my garbage out of the water.

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    Blindkingofbohemia,

    I assume your computer is running Windows.
    Celestia uses OpenGL 3D graphics so it can be built to run under Windows, MacOS and Linux.

    That symptom is one of many which usually are caused by buggy, out-of-date graphics drivers. The graphics drivers provided by Microsoft's update service contain buggy and out of date OpenGL code. (They'd rather software used their proprietary DirectX graphics.)

    Free copies of the current graphics drivers should be available from the Web site of the company which made the graphics chips used in your computer: AMD, Nvidia or Intel. Some laptops need modified drivers which are provided on the Web site of the manufacturer of the laptop itself.
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    ravells,

    Thanks for the kind words, but I'm not directly involved in writing any of the code. I'm more of an advanced user who complains about bugs and writes documentation. I do agree that it's a fun program to use, though!
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    Thanks Selden, now at least Celestia works...
    Next question though.. How do I put my map onto a globe in celestia, and how do i edit the image?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindkingofbohemia View Post
    Thanks Selden, now at least Celestia works...
    Great!
    Next question though.. How do I put my map onto a globe in celestia, and how do i edit the image?
    That's two questions

    To place a map on a globe, one must define a planet and specify the map as its surface texture.

    To define a planet with a surface texture, one must create an appropriate "solar system catalog" and place it in Celestia's extras folder. Here's a minimal example catalog, just to get you started. It doesn't include atmosphere or clouds.
    Code:
    "my_planet" "Sol"
    {
       Radius 6000
       Texture "my_map.jpg"
       EllipticalOrbit { Period 1 SemiMajorAxis 1}
       UniformRotation { Period 24 Inclination 20}
    }
    Use notepad (or your favorite text editor; NOT Word, WordPad or other word processing editor; I use emacs) to put this text into a file named my_catalog.ssc in extras. The first part of the name is your choice. The file type must be .ssc

    In the extras folder, create the folder textures. In that folder., create the folder medres. Place the image my_map.jpg in Celestia\extras\textures\medres

    Start Celestia, wait for it to go to the Earth.

    Type
    <enter>my_planet<enter>
    where <enter> is the Enter key
    "my_planet" should appear at the top left of Celestia's window.
    type the letter
    g
    Celestia's viewpoint should turn and go to the planet "my_planet"

    As for how to "edit the image", you can use Celestia's various commands to look at your planet from various directions and distances, to make time go by faster or slower (so you can see different parts illuminated by the Sun), etc. You can add directives to the ssc file to give your planet atmosphere and clouds, to specify a bumpmap to give its mountains the appearance of height, to specify a specularmap so sunlight glints off its oceans, etc.

    Celestia includes a "capture image" command so you can take a .PNG or .JPG snapshot of what it's drawing, and then use your favorite paint program to modify that snapshot.

    To get you started, I've attached a zip file (my_addon.zip) which includes a catalog and a shrunken version of your map already in appropriate directories. If you extract this zip file into Celestia's extras folder, Celestia should show your planet.

    An verbose introduction to creating Addons (like your planet) for Celestia is available at http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~seb/cel...don-intro.html

    A Celestia user's guide is available at http://celestiamotherlode.net/catalo...mentation.html

    A detailed reference manual for Celestia is available at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Celestia


    I hope this helps a little.
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