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    Hi folks!

    I'm planning a game of DnD for some friends. I'm an absolute rookie when it comes to designing towns, cities, lands and whatnot. Although I must admit, there's something about it that has always intrigued me, which is why I've decided to do a somewhat ambitious (for me) map of the largest city in the known world.

    In the scenario, the town is ruled by a twilight silver dragon. Twilight is the first time in a dragons life where its force is actually diminished with age, and this particular dragon is quite weak, though ancient and wise. It resides inside and beneath the Sky District, in the mountain.

    I'd like to force-feed you more about the story, but I'll stick to what's relevant for the design choices.
    The city is designed in a manner that's supposed to aid defense. The upper right road leads to the main gate and the easiest way to transport large masses of soldiers to and from the center of town. Because of that, this road is lead alongside the mountain housing the Sky District. From there, defenders will be able to severely decimate enemy forces, until they have reached the natural entrance up to the mountain. From there, they will face the kingsguard.

    The city is focused on trade, so there are already quite a few zones serving that particular purpose, and more to come.
    The silver dragon is suffering from atmospheric dissipation (forgot the fantasy-correct term atm) and is slowly diffusing into the very mountain it lives in. As a result, increasingly large veins of silver has been enriched into the mountain during the last 500 years. It is one of the major sources of the citys wealth, but fool is he who thinks the city would succumb to invasion were it not for this. Under the dragons ruling hand, the city has prospered both politically and socially.

    The ruler is kind-hearted, which is why the city have only a relatively small pool of low-class citizen, instead housing a substiantial amount of middle class houses and citizens.
    The thieves guild have taken root in the low class district, they are a tough group to keep out. The district is supposed to have only one entrance/exit, but the numerous tunnels in the old city district, which was built before the dragon laid claim to the town, makes moving in and out of the low class district a breeze...Provided you have the knowledge and connections.


    These (among other) districts and buildings can be found right now:
    Storage, warehouses and granaries.
    Guild halls.
    Red light district.
    Administrative.
    Stockyards.
    Caravanserai.
    Port
    Tradesman
    Zoo
    Amphitheater
    Middle Class
    Lower Class
    Slum / Deadtown
    Judicial
    Religious / Divine

    And these districts/buildings have yet to be added:
    Library / Educational
    Cemetery
    Royal / Noble
    High Class
    Military (kind of covered in the major military district to the immediate left of the town square, but I was thinking a distint military building of sorts. More of a mental note)


    Before I did more sketching, I was curious to what the experts on the topic have to say?
    Does it look cluttered? (Might be hard to tell at the moment, smaller roads and individual buildings will be added in the next stage)
    Does it "flow"? If you came by boat as a tradesman from the south, would it feel natural to dock, unload cargo and move about the city?
    Anything that strikes you as particularly odd/out of place/out of scale?
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    I'm pretty new at this too and from a variety of tutorials i've seen on this site and comments from the OGs, the best advice seems to be to think about how these cities began and then later expanded. So ask yourself why did people settle here in the first place, how does this affect where the "old" part of the city is, and how that affects later expansion.

    So, if it started as a port/trading center - then you would likely see the old city in that vicinity and perhaps an old walled area, markets, and some administration stuff in that vicinity. If it started as a mining colony or geared towards defense, then perhaps the old city is in your sky district. You also have to think about food - so is there farmland? If so, is it within the city walls or outside? Does most of their food come from fishing and trade? If so, then the original settlements were likely near the port. Once you have the original settlement, then you can think about what came later and where it would be situated. (i.e. as the city grew, did new arrivals settle in the outskirts or did the original inhabitants become wealthier and resettle in more exclusive and defensible parts of the city?)

    I'm assuming that others who know more about this than me will chime in...but I think your broad layout and back story is really cool and hopefully these brief words help to add some detail to what you have already.

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    Thank you for the reply!

    I thought about placing the old town next to the port, but I ran into the problem of the low class districts needing to be placed bordering it.
    The placing of the left and top-right roads leading to their respective exit is somewhat essential, because the roads need to run through the town, which would not work from the north due to the ocean being south.
    With that road placement, the lower right corner of the city would seem the "safest", meaning it would take the longest for invading armies to reach it from the nearest gate. It would feel strange to place the old town there, because as you mentioned, the more defensible parts of the city tend to be more valuable, so a low class district there would have been quickly converted to a higher class district.

    The way I pictured the town growing was the old town being more of a farmland trading community in the very beginning. The dragon choose to inhabit the land because of three major factors:
    It is good for trade, lying along the major road leading through the country. It is also connected via the docks.
    It is defensible, with a mountain providing tactical advantage and one back to the vast ocean, meaning an invading army would need to bring ships, lest they wouldn't be able to completely cut off the citys supplies during a siege.
    It has a central geographical position in the kingdom, meaning it would be easy to dispatch troops to numerous far off places of the lands not easily accessible should you have to walk cross-country.
    The dragon nested in the mountain, and in the following 2000 years or so the kingdom grew under his rule.

    Actually, your questions really got me thinking. Most likely, the entire low class district was "Old town" (or just "town" from the view of the first inhabitants). And it wouldn't make sense for the old town to be situated so far from the roads.
    What I think I'll go with is that the low class district was the first settlement there. As the city grew, it was not so much that the low class district was falling apart but rather everything next to it was built to a much higher standard. The low class district is merely the name for the part of old town that was actually inhabited. Subsequent attempts to improve the low class district met unexpected resistance, not least from the thieves guild.
    They thrive under dirty, lawless, every-man-for-himself conditions, and had much to profit from being able to keep the low class district low class, free of guards and other rulers.
    Rather than driving out and purging basically everyone in the low class district (with little to no chance of actually catching the thieves guild leaders), a wall was put up. That way, most people in the city live comfortably believing that the low class district is contained from the rest of the city. (Of course, the inhabitants there are not prisoners, they are free to walk the city. They just need to pass a few guard booths to do so.)

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    Glad I could be of some help - It sounds like that little thought experiment helped you add a lot of subtle detail and history to your city. And your idea about upper class districts emerging away from the old town makes a lot of sense (particularly if you think about American History regarding suburbanization). Look forward to seeing how this city develops.

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    Ships do not haul over land very well, so make sure the shipyards are right on the water's edge in the final map.

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