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    When I first heard about the three shapes challenge I was playing the history of the three kingdom mod for Civ4. I made a connection. At first I wanted to make three kingdoms, each one representing a shape, fighting for supremacy. Heretic movements like rectangles and ellipse (representing yellow turbans, barbarians and Taoists…) would also be in the brawl to contest the other shapes. But then I realized that I was just making a silly copy of 3nd century China, so it might just be better to do the real thing. Less room for creativity but more challenging. Speaking of creativity, I used a couple of maps (no many maps) for reference. Most of them have more romance than history and there are no 3 kingdoms since the emperor of the Han dynasty is still in place.

    It’s a map of the Han dynasty, around the year 200 (year of the metal dragon), just before the battle of Guandu. The Empire is still united; it will only be dissolved in 220, with the abdication of the last Han emperor. 220 marks the beginning of the three kingdom era. Right now, it’s just a group of warlords fighting for power.

    It’s mostly a layout, but at least I have the information’s right, I think so…

    A couple of info about my map:

    In white: the name of the 13 regions of the empire. I don’t think I will keep that info because some regions are divided. They do not seem useful. (But they were for tracing boundaries)

    Big black font: the names of the warlords; 9 in total (maybe more than 9 but the others are too marginal: Meng Huo?) and some surrounding kingdoms/people. Korea is not united, but when you are the center of the world, why bother with the little details. The Xiongnu and others nomadic people of the north are pretty important. They are the main reason why the Great wall was built by Qin.

    Blue: river, lake, ocean

    The rest should be pretty obvious and all the odd labels colors will change… in time.

    I made a political map but I’m not sure how I will use it. I need to find a way to show ‘’political boundaries’’ but I don’t want them to be overwhelming.

    I’m hesitating between using pinyin or traditional Chinese. Pinyin is usually easier to read for westerners. Sadly most of the fonts used are not optimised for pinyin so it looks awful and apparently Chinese people don’t understand pinyin very well. So I might go toward the traditional characters but I will keep the pinyin for reference. Some cities also have 2 names old/present name, it's also temporary.

    There are still no triangles, squares or circles neither but they are coming!

    Warning, there will be a lot of non Euclidean triangles!

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    Awesome idea! Can't wait to see how it turns out
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    I did a challenge map of Japan once showing the provinces of southwestern Honshu, the island of Shikoku and part of Kyushu, as participants in the Genpei War. As a way to politically define each province, as well as show which of the two sides in the conflict they supported, I included kammon (samurai house crests) as the political identifiers. So though you could use interior fills of each province with a different color, as you have above, you could create colored borders that work like the color fill to indicate the politics of a given province. Or, you could put in heraldic symbols, as in my example using kammon to differentiate each.

    Here's a link to my Genpei War Map.
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    Thanks, I'll look into it! Adding some sort of crest in not a bad idea but unless I create some of my own, current factions did not have crests. China's dynasties (Ming and Qing at least) used their name's character on the battlefield. Pretty straightforward since all Han chinese family names only have 1 character. It might be a good idea.

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    Very interesting idea.

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    The nine clans:

    From top left to bottom right:

    Yuan Shao, Gongsun Du, Zhang Lu
    Cao Cao, Ma Teng, Liu Zhang
    Sun Ce, Shi Xie, Liu Biao

    and the other one is a dragon.

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    I might use them as city symbols.


    tomorrow I will work on mountains/hills, they cover nearly half the map...
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    Oh those are lovely!!

    I think they'd make great city symbols too (Are those the actual translations from the real world? )
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    The hills in Zhejiang, I think it needs a bit more:

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    oh the colors... I think it's because i'm not working in RGB and the guild converts the colors because it looked good on my computer.

    I also worked on a frame but I will incorporate it later. The map is now a square.


    @Jalyha: these are the real family names of the warlords that existed at that time. Well, they are recored in the Romance of the three kingdoms book that was written many centuries later...
    Actually, some where not warlords by choice. Some where politician and aristocrat placed at the head of their province by the central administration of the Empire.

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    The colors are different when I open it


    And it's looking great! Circles... now a square... only triangles left (or did I miss something?? )

    And cool... it sounds like it would be interesting to study!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jalyha View Post
    The colors are different when I open it


    And it's looking great! Circles... now a square... only triangles left (or did I miss something?? )

    And cool... it sounds like it would be interesting to study!!
    really, you can't see the triangles? It's okay, at start I wasn't sure they where considered triangles.

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