Israh Tutorial Issues

[Tyndale]

Greetings all. I posted an initial question about the Israh tutorial. Given the feedback, I gave it another go, but am having continued problems.

Here is the my original. Outside of using a different altitude coloration, things start off great.


Global raise is good too.


So is basin fill and resetting the Continental Shelf.


Then things start to go a bit wonky. Here are the recommended settings for the first Incise


And here is the result


And here are the second incise settings per the tutorial


With the following results


As you can see, things looks nothing like


Any ideas what I am doing wrong? From here things get even wonkier with the incising.

[wthrasherb]

Tyndale, I was baffled at first too when I first found the Israh tutorial. Fear not, it is a simple problem.

On the Fractal Terrains section of the tutorial concerning the Incise Flow Process, the TUTORIAL has the ORDER of the 4 fields different from the current version of Fractal Terrains.

The tutorial lists the values in this order (from left to right since that is how they are listed in the tutorial): Blur/Amount/Flow Exponent/Effect Blend

Fractal Terrains 3 has those same values, but when the little window for the Incise Flow Process opens the fields are in THIS order: Amount/Flow Exponent/Effect Blend/Blur.

You don't have to change anything the tutorial says to do EXCEPT put the numbers in the right order.

For example, in the tutorial it reads: Incise Flow: Select all, 8 / 1 / 0.5 / 1
So, as far as the tutorial is concerned, 8 = Blur, 1 = Amount, 0.5 = Flow Exponent, and 1 = Effect Blend.

In FT3, you would enter those values (from TOP to BOTTOM) in THIS ORDER: 1/0.5/1/8.

Hope that helps!

[moriturimax]

Tyndale, I was baffled at first too when I first found the Israh tutorial. Fear not, it is a simple problem.

On the Fractal Terrains section of the tutorial concerning the Incise Flow Process, the TUTORIAL has the ORDER of the 4 fields different from the current version of Fractal Terrains.

The tutorial lists the values in this order (from left to right since that is how they are listed in the tutorial): Blur/Amount/Flow Exponent/Effect Blend

Fractal Terrains 3 has those same values, but when the little window for the Incise Flow Process opens the fields are in THIS order: Amount/Flow Exponent/Effect Blend/Blur.

You don't have to change anything the tutorial says to do EXCEPT put the numbers in the right order.

For example, in the tutorial it reads: Incise Flow: Select all, 8 / 1 / 0.5 / 1
So, as far as the tutorial is concerned, 8 = Blur, 1 = Amount, 0.5 = Flow Exponent, and 1 = Effect Blend.

In FT3, you would enter those values (from TOP to BOTTOM) in THIS ORDER: 1/0.5/1/8.

Hope that helps!

AGHHHHHHHHHH! I bet that is what is killing me too, I just now posted about my own problems.. would this by chance be causing my map to eventually look like someone with a candle dripped wax all over the map instead of the beautiful mountains they get?

[wthrasherb]

AGHHHHHHHHHH! I bet that is what is killing me too, I just now posted about my own problems.. would this by chance be causing my map to eventually look like someone with a candle dripped wax all over the map instead of the beautiful mountains they get?

If you are talking about the weird little speckled "bumps" the show up in some spots, I haven't quite figured that out yet. I have that issue on some maps and not on others and I am fairly consistent with my process in FT 3. If you could post some examples that would help. Otherwise.....

My Answer for now: yes

[moriturimax]

Started a different thread after trying the flipping the order thing... if anything it's horribly worse.. when I do that correct order with the 1st incise flow, it kills all my mountains above 6 or 7,000 meters. I have no clue how there are such different results when I follow the tutorial to the letter. It's very discouraging.

[moriturimax]

Tried again, this time skipped the first select all incise flow and did the 2nd incise flow in the correct order for 2500m and up, it absolutely kills the mountains and flattens the whole planet. What the heck???!!

[moriturimax]

Okay, one more question before I call it a night.. I am having a sneaking suspicion but it doesn't seem like it would make sense.

When you are selecting altitude ranges for incise flow, and the range you enter doesn't actually seem to select anything... and then you run incise flow, does it still do something? As in, it affects the map even though nothing is selected, but there is some kind of math going on that you don't see?

Or is it just simply that if nothing is selected then Incise Flow does nothing?

[Tyndale]

For example, in the tutorial it reads: Incise Flow: Select all, 8 / 1 / 0.5 / 1
So, as far as the tutorial is concerned, 8 = Blur, 1 = Amount, 0.5 = Flow Exponent, and 1 = Effect Blend.

In FT3, you would enter those values (from TOP to BOTTOM) in THIS ORDER: 1/0.5/1/8.

Hope that helps!

Sorry, but RL caught up with me : ) Thanks for the suggestion, wthrasherb, as that was what I originally thought the issue was. But when I inputted the incise numbers that way, things get even worse than before . I'll try to post pictures this evening.