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    So, on a whim, I decided to Google some of the names of my maps I've created here, to see if and where they show up.

    I was more than a little disturbed to find a Photobucket account "Pictures by Kreenakal" with hundreds of maps - most of them from the CG, including a bunch of mine, but there is no reference to where they came from, or who made them, other than the twisted idea, that this guy "Kreenakal" is the creator. I know I didn't give this guy permission to post my maps. So I sent an Abuse Email to Photobucket regarding that account.

    Also curiously I found dozens of CG maps, in Gleemax Forums posted by a non-member of the CG, but I did find that he posted "here's a bunch of maps from the Cartographers' Guild"...

    Just for those who use the maps found at the Guild. Most are CC licensed which gives you permission to use in your own personal games. The license does not give you the permission to post elsewhere online, without our express permission. Please, do not do that!

    I've got no real problems with posting a map that has a link back to the CG, or to my own site, as long as you make it clear where the map originated and who created it. That's actually what I was seeking to find, when I googled tonight.

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    Good work GP and thanks for taking the initiative on this. I suppose it's possible that Kreenakal is using photobucket to hold the maps as reference for his own games, but if he wants to do that he should not make the album available for public viewing.

    Heh...can't see any of my maps there, don't know if I should be relieved or offended!

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    None of mine on there... I am disappointed

    Well if he sticks to the CC (SA-BY-NC) where applicable then I don't care. Still its true then each member here makes their own license and without one stated then its not for republishing.

    Its also a timely reminder that with a few of Kimmo's art on there by having the CC statement nailed as part of the image the license terms travel with the image. Its not enough that you make a text statement next to the image about its license as people don't take that and re-post it next to the image.

    I saw Hoels and Torstans maps there too amongst many others unnamed - if they want to check.

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    Hmmmm, One of my maps there: City of Seawharf. Page 3.

    Don't know if that means its a recent addition, or an old addition
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    Damn, that ****es me off...I'm flattered that he likes my stuff, but still a lil tiffed. On the other hand, I didn't see where he claims that he made all of those images and at least he hasn't stuck his name in place of mine. Obviously a lurker here, I'm wondering if there should be a letter of reprimand or something sent to him about banning his IP address. Maybe he should change his album to "pictures FOR kreenakal" instead of "BY kreenakal". With the wealth of pics he's collected, I don't think that there is a sane person who thinks that he made them all.
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    Probably 75% of every map I've ever posted here is on that guy's site. That's ridiculous!
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    Can't say I'm terribly upset, but I do agree with you, he is an asshole.
    One thing thou, it would be cool to have a gallery of EVERY map posted in the finished maps forum. Just to be able to browse around for inspiration without having to go through all the threads would be nice.

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    We could just post a link to this guys site
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    lol.

    Thanks for the heads-up, GP. I've requested a take-down of the only image there that I want to reserve rights on, along with a CC license notice on the others that I made. As well as an admonition to give credit where it's due.
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    I likewise have requested my image taken down. I can't believe someone would be so stupid as to think that they can violate copyrights of tens or even hundreds of people....
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