Second-hand pirate?

[junius_gallio]

those match my budget especially with taxes upon us.

Ditto here, but it's not taxes, it's work on the new house.

If you are into 3d stuff check out the link on here or look up the free Bryce 7 downloads you can get this month. Pretty awesome stuff but I don't know how to use it yet.

I've tried Poser before, years ago--Bryce is going to be a heck of a learning curve, but if I can handle that, the results certainly look worthwhile. If I remember correctly, Terry Amthor used Bryce (or something similar) on some of his Kulthea projects.

Well ... from an ethical and moral perspective the fact is that digital piracy is a very different beast from the maritime form of piracy.

While I agree that it's quite different, it's still a very sticky wicket.

I actually considered keeping the software installed and working with it the best I could but ... sometimes me conscience bothers me.

But leaving aside that quagmire: may I recommend you try out Inkscape as well? It's a vector program and with the rgith symbol sets you can replicate a lot of the functionality of CC - plus do a lot more as well.

I tried Illustrator several years ago, and really stank at it. However, it's certainly worth looking at, and as I'm in the queue for disability, it's not like I don't have time on my hands!