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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenigma View Post
    You've made your own language? Thats fantastic! I'm also doing that right now for the book I'm working at! (at a rather slow pace xD)
    Creating a language is a three-step thing... it's much simpler than making a map (from my point of view) but it takes a very long time.

    Step 1 :

    First, you need to create a dictionnary, the best thing to do is to find a list of world in your own language, then patiently (you'll need a LOT of patience) write a word of your own for each and every word (even if it's a one-letter word).

    Do to do that :
    - Invent your own list of sufixes and prefixes, (it's the most important part !)
    - Assemble the biggest dictionnary in your own native language possible,
    - Invent your own tonality (a language must have a uniform sound and tonality,
    - Invent your set of syllabs ( Take, for exemple, the same number of syllabs as in japaneese on their 2 basics alphabets, it's a good number)
    - Assign to each syllab either a symbol (and you get a japanese / arabic type of alphabet) or a letter (accentued or not, you can even invent your own accents); the best is to create the two of them
    - Create your dictionnary

    This step can take up to a year, since there is actually no software developper who has thought of making a soft for that (I've tried to create it, the software is too complicated for my level) using MS Access can fasten the process.

    2 : Create a language structure

    2.1 Create a grammar

    This is where you should copy an existing one, my advice : French or English are tbe best to copy. You can use Japaneese or arabic if you want symbol based language (throug you can apply english or french structure to symbols too). The best is to use the one you're most comfortable with.

    2.2 Create a civilization

    No language is born out of a civilisation, a language depends on the value of a civilisation. Some exemples :

    - Asian language shows how much they value respect by having suffixes for the different familly members, friends, and a hierrarchie of respect (san, sama, chan, obasan, neesan etc...)
    - Turquoise (RPG Invented language, don't remember the author through) is born in a military driven civilisation, there is suffixes and words for the differents populations, warrior / non-warriors aren't allowed to use the same type of words, thus leads to a two-level language...

    2.3 : Rethink your dictionnary for a most efficent use with the 2.1 and 2.2, add the words your world needs. Don't forget to invent words for new / non-existent species and plants.

    3 - Laws

    One of the most importants parts of the language is to add laws to it. Think about the strong words, what's authorized to pronounce, some words can be forbident (like voldemort in Harry Potter) and have to be replaced.

    You create some references textes (religions, rought outdraft of laws that rules your countries).

    Create a set of 10 000 words who are specifics 5000 first names, 5000 familly-names.

    END of making a language (basic way)

    Once you've done that, the changes in the whole thing will be natural during the play (players will most likely shorten some words, mispell and such, write it all down with the number of occurence) and consider this as the natural language evolution. If you're writting a book, consider doing so on your own to make the language evolve... don't forget that the only languages who never evolves and stop having dialects are dead languages, so if your civilization is still alive, don't fix it into stone...

    Hope it helps you a bit in your language-making and helps you fasten your language-making.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greason Wolfe View Post
    Don't get frustrated, Djenny. We all had to take little steps at first. There are a lot of folks here that are probably willing to help you out as much as they can. To make things easier, though, it might help if we had a better idea of what you are trying to get out of this map. I'd recommend going through the Finished Maps sub-forum and maybe the Regional/World Mapping sub-forum and see if there is anything in there that is close to what you're trying to achieve. The other good sub-forum to go through is the Tutorials sub-forum since many of the tutorials there are often directly related to a finished map somewhere in one of the other sub-forums.

    I know it can be a bit discouraging when you first start out and aren't getting what you want out of the map you're trying to make. For us cartographers, patience is very much a virtue. If you're having trouble achieving a particular look or effect, don't hesitate to ask for help. And lastly, Redrobes, one of our upstanding members here, has put together a keyword index located here (http://www.cartographersguild.com/ut...word_Index.htm). You might try browsing through that list as well, looking, in particular, for the applications you are using.

    Hang in there, and I promise things will get better.

    GW

    Thank you so much for your support. I'm curently doing so. Fact is that what I want to make is a map that appears in a datapad. The datapad is old (It's 30 years old so the technology should look somehow out-of-date for a faraway futurist world)....

    I didn't found any artworks showing datapads, maybe I'm using the wrong keywords : Future, Datapad.

    If you have any sugestions about how to research better, I'm all up for it !

    DF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukyuu View Post

    snip . . .

    Thank you so much for your support. I'm curently doing so. Fact is that what I want to make is a map that appears in a datapad. The datapad is old (It's 30 years old so the technology should look somehow out-of-date for a faraway futurist world)....

    I didn't found any artworks showing datapads, maybe I'm using the wrong keywords : Future, Datapad.

    If you have any sugestions about how to research better, I'm all up for it !

    DF.
    Ahh, for that, then, you might want to try the Sci-fi/Modern sub-forum. Also, we had a challenge sometime back, and I think it was Ravells, though I can't be sure, that might have done (or started) with something like what you're describing. If he happens to peek in on this thread, perhaps he can provide a link to what he was doing. I'm not big on the sci-fi mapping, but I seem to remember a few in that sub-forum that, while not specifically what you're looking for, might give you a few ideas about how to move forward with what you have.

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    A little nerve wraking, I can't seems to find anything... Am I searching wrong or maybe "datapad" isn't a good idea for mapping? Maybe I should rethink everything and start it from scratch ?

    The idea just seems good, I'm maybe a little too confused about how I want it ?

    DF.

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