ViewingDale & Fentor Cross Church High Res + CWBP demo (and even more)

[Redrobes]

Hi Seer, compression needs to be small or else file gets really big. Was thinking about trying an H264 codec which is supposed to be better but few people have it.

I put first of your Thrix's tales on the CWBP wiki. I gotta get some of those names into Fentor Cross now . Are you going to have a stab at the June Challenge with some nifty sketchup ?

Edit -- Are you getting a lot of timeouts on the web site tonight ? I can see an issue with some router in Phoenix. Is 4.53.104.2 in your trace route ? If you "ping -t 4.53.104.2" do get lots of timeouts from it ? Its about 1 in 4 over here tonight.

[jfrazierjr]

Hi Seer, compression needs to be small or else file gets really big. Was thinking about trying an H264 codec which is supposed to be better but few people have it.

I put first of your Thrix's tales on the CWBP wiki. I gotta get some of those names into Fentor Cross now . Are you going to have a stab at the June Challenge with some nifty sketchup ?

Edit -- Are you getting a lot of timeouts on the web site tonight ? I can see an issue with some router in Phoenix. Is 4.53.104.2 in your trace route ? If you "ping -t 4.53.104.2" do get lots of timeouts from it ? Its about 1 in 4 over here tonight.

Rebrobes, that is just SICK. You did a top notch job in programming that. I am amazed at your skill, so will rep you if I can.

Joe

[jfrazierjr]

Yep, was able to rep you. btw, when are you starting on the 3d version ala Sketch-Up???

Joe

[SeerBlue]

I was thinking about it, but I am not sure if it would be fair, there are technically 5 of us working on Snapgallows, aged from 3 to 13, plus me.
and I am not sure if we would get it done in time. Creative differences rear their ugly head around lunch/nap time
And I have to do a back story for them as well,so far it runs to 110 lines, and kids ask the most insightful, one word, "why" questions,, luckily we are watching the Corpse Bride for inspiration (and blame), and they are in the "Gallows" frame of mind. Carol is a little irked at me though as the middle 2 boys won't sleep in the downstairs room now,,,,and they blame the Head of Alfert Kier and Snapgallows.
The kids discovered Sketchup styles in a submenu, so I think by monday we will kick out a few stylistic renders. They also figured out how to put mansard roofs onto towers, which I told them wouldn't work, and I thought I would have to do manually, so I'm quite happy.
Saturday I will try To start a Snapgallows thread in the CWBP area, but the baby is due any time now, which is why I am still awake at 1:10 AM. So I may not get to it.
I read the Thrixs' Oddling Bungler's Wiki entry, as did my Mother, Lizzie's Grandmother, and several siblings I don't remember having, but where in my email address book,,, very nice, but I blamed the spelling errors on you

Well I fuddled your thread enough I guess.

"Fear the Head of Alfert Kier"

SeerBlue, lernt by Carpet Orcs

[Sigurd]

Very nice to see everything in perspective. Thanks.

Sigurd

[Redrobes]

Joe, thanks for the rep But theres more...

This next one shows the Fentor Cross Old Town map and a few things we can do with it. The first is about layers which came up recently. Since it doesn't render the map as a whole bitmap there are no layers exactly but there is what we call a Z order. The program handles the Z order for you and you dont get a lot of control over it. There are very good technical reasons for why but its quite involved. Basically I keep promising that you are better off letting it do it for you despite what yuu might think there. Anyway, you do get a little control with it and you can set up whether you want stuff on the top or underneath. Its a big topic actually but here is a brief demo of the cart on a tree or under one.

Then you can link to web pages from the map. Actually you can link almost anything to the map but linking to the CWBP wiki pages about the places is one obvious reason why this is a good thing.

Then there are map hot links to more maps. CamStudio the screen capture program does not seem to pick up the change in cursor from the program. Normally the cursor is a crosshair and changes to an arrow (like shown) only when over a hotlink. You can also note the jump stack history appending the new church map to the list so that when you exit, you go to the place that you entered.

So Movie #2:

http://www.viewing.ltd.uk/Temp/CG/VD_Demo2/Movie2.avi
(14Mb)

[Redrobes]

This next movie is showing the main church interior which was the challenge entry. The thing that has been talked about a lot is modifying stuff that is movable. So in this movie I can open the doors, move the books and cloak and the characters (or monsters) on the map.

Next I show the lighting. As the priest moves into the light then he gets the rays from the church window cast over him (still in 2D tho... dont get too excited )

Its very easy to add shadows in the app but its not easy to add light sources at this stage. We have talked for a long time (at least a year) about adding lighting to the program. Its hard but not that hard to do it. Recently tho what with this church and other cave systems etc I think I need to do it. I would have liked torch light casting over the stuff. Also peoples graphics cards have more power than ever and it will need some extra work from them which I think is possible now.

Move #3;
http://www.viewing.ltd.uk/Temp/CG/VD_Demo2/Movie3.avi
(12Mb)

And now that you can guess the URL pattern, I had better post the text for the rest