Continuous WIP

[RobA]

Wow! Lots of detailed area covered there. You will certainly have many opportunities to fill in the holes as you need to, which is a great way to approach a map.

I like your process too, but caution that the political boundaries might have been premature, not having the land features in place. An alternative way at this time is to define zones of influence for each of the civilizations and see how they approach each other across the physical terrain (once defined). The relationships between them will help decide the borders, as well.

For example two groups constantly at war will have to have defensible borders tightly coupled with terrain, possibly with a large no-man's land of disputed territory between them, where-as two groups that have a relatively harmonious peace and trade relationship may have borders based on negotiation and may be a nice straight line across a region.

-Rob A>

[Pablo Diablo]

RobA-

Good points. I think most of my political borders (as they appear on the sketch) follow your guidelines. Its just not so apparent, because mountain ranges, etc are still in my head!

The Keltoi / Ilium (Celtic and Greek) border actually cants clockwise a few more degrees to follow the mountain range that occurs along the fault line... The Keltoi / Skagen (Celtic / Viking) border is a point of conflict, with the Keltoi being nomadic and the Skagen starting to establish coastal settlements - there will be a narrow "no-man's land" as you call it (I've been thinking of it as a DMZ! =) along the northeast coast there. The only other political border within a geographical mass is in the southwest, where the two pre-Mayan-inspired civilizations share mostly peaceful borders on bodies of water.

The thought on the Imperrium Toranum (Roman-inspired) is that it thins out as it progresses into the shattered lands - there may be a technical "border", but it is not a Hadrian's Wall sort of situation, rather a "more civilized" (safe) and "less civilized" (not safe) one.

PD

[Pablo Diablo]

So I absolutely LOVED some of the coloration in these maps by TheRedEpic. I haven't quite pegged the water coloration, but I think I'm doing OK for my first shot (and that bit was done without my tablet, which was a bit of a pain in the you-know-what).

Next:
-Internal bodies of water (which I should have done already)
-Figuring out how I am going to do mountain ranges

Thoughts?

Do I need to change the color on the scale? It seems to stick out to me, but I wanted to let it sit for a while, and see if it was OK when I got some warmer colors on the piece. (Right now its the whole red/green color contrast thing)

Edit: (forgot to mention) Also, I'm of changing the compass rose to something a little more cross-cultural than the vaguely roman-esque font. Perhaps a circular chiseled stone tablet...?

PD
PS Forgive the compression artifacts on the attachment - first shot was almost 3 megs, which would have just been rude. =)

[pyrandon]

I agree with you abour RedEpic's colorations--and I think you've done a quite respectable job emulating it! Did you achieve this through a bunch of cloud layers, each overlaying to differing degrees of intensity?

The red on the scale would be ok if desaturated a bit, and it's tough to tell if your compass is misplaced because there are too few elements on the map fro which to judge, IMO.

Overall, very nice!

[Pablo Diablo]

Thanks, Pyrandon!

In terms of the water coloration... I used 5 different layers (I might have been able to get away with 4). I wish I had been able to use my Tablet!!! Oi!

From Top to Bottom:

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1. Green/White clouds in Color Dodge - erased to various degrees from the "deeper" portions of the ocean.

2. Using a solid but soft brush is a slightly richer green with "wet edges" mode, I put down a "glaze" over some of the seabed to help pull it all together. My brush might have been in a special mode here... I don't recall - the idea was to lower contrast slightly and tone large portions of the water.

3. Using a medium scale brush with low/medium opacity on a layer in Color Burn blending mode, put down a lot more mottling. I /might/ have done some blurring using the Blur tool.

4. Using a large scale brush with limited opacity and a slightly darker color than the base (#5), I put down some general mottling away from the land masses, and then Gaussian Blurred it slightly.

5. Base Flat Water Color
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In addition, the land masses (sitting above the water) have 2 different "Outer Glow"s on it - One is tighter and smooth, the other is wider, with some noise, but at a lower opacity.

And there you have it!
PD

[RobA]

You could also try to frame in the scale with a similar bevel as the rose and title..that might tie it together more

-Rob A>

[Pablo Diablo]

OK, slow going - between working the freelance lifestyle, being forced to move (landlord sold the building), and plenty of other stuff....

I've moved ahead to detailing the continent on which gameplay has started...

(Yes, I admit that I was inspired by a few literary sources on a couple of the location names, i.e. the "GOLKI FALLS" w/ the upper, middle and lower plates, etc...)

Haven't finished naming everything, but the game is on a bit of a hiatus, and we're not sure it will pick up again, what with the shift to 4E and all.

You'll also notice that there are red dots (detailing points of interest) on one of the southern islands. Guess where the campaign is centered?

PD

[Image issues] OK admins and power users... I try uploading the .jpg (at 3.4 megs, it's large, but well under the 4.7m cutoff) - the upload manager crunches away for a while, and then the pop-up screen goes blank white and doesn't proceed any further. This has happened across multiple attempts. Any idea what's wrong? Is there an alternate method that I should use?

I will edit this post once I get the image up.