I don't want to hijack the thread but I just wanna answer RjBeals on his Illustrator question. Yes Photoshop has good path tools, but the don't compare to what you can do with illustrator, illustrator has many more options especially in CS5 where you now can manipulate the with of the line you draw so its thicker in some places. But everytime a new version comes out the other programs inherit a bit more bringing all programs closer together. In my opinon, work the with programs you're comfortable with