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    I doubt you need it, Cantab, but I took the tectonic plates image off Wikipedia and wrapped it around a globe to get a relatively undistorted of each of the plates. I've loaded them into an album here: http://www.cartographersguild.com/al...p?albumid=3038.

    It's not even close to perfect, as whoever made that image didn't do a very good job balancing it around the edges. South of the equator is smaller than north, the plates don't line up at the 180/-180 line, and I'm pretty sure the North American plate doesn't take a 30 degree turn at the North Pole.

    But it gives a decent view of each plate with less distortion than an equidistant projection. If anyone has a more accurate map of the plates, I can do this same exercise again pretty easily.
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    It is instructive actually, especially since I have trouble putting stuff on globes myself. (Google Earth glitches on my system.) The issues with the North Pole are because the Wikipedia map is a Mercator projection and doesn't show the polar regions at all. (Note how Greenland is cut off on the map).

    My own planet has plate boundaries running almost straight over both poles. That's given me some projection challenges.

    Hmmm, maybe I should post my own plates. I was going to wait until I had the DEM for the oceans.
    I am a geology nerd.

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    I can easily wrap your map on a globe for you, if it would help at all.
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    I think I can build a spreadsheet that randomly places centroids, and then finds the points of intersection, even weighting them so that it's not necessarily equidistant. Note that that doesn't mean draw the plate boundaries from intersection to intersection though, although that's something we could work on adding once the start and end points of each boundary is.
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    I think I have it so that it finds the weighted centroids for each triplet of plate origins, although the weighting formula may need tweaking. I couldn't quite handle the spherical trigonometry to the point of solving the equations into a nice, neat formula, so it starts with a reasonable guess and iterates across the map seeking the centerpoint. This method does pose the possibility that it will find a localized low spot rather than the actual centerpoint, but until I become a lot more competent at spherical trig, it's the best I can do. I do have a BS in Math, but I haven't ever had to use it much since I graduated, and even if we did cover spherical trig in a college course, I've never touched it since, and it's all been forgotten.

    The next bit I need to do is teach it to draw the weighted boundary line between two of these centroids, and then how to pick out the boundaries to use to make the plates.

    I am making it harder on myself though- the plate definition is a pair of points rather than a single one. I'm using an oval as the concept, rather than a circle.
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    Still working slowly on figuring out the best process to draw these boundaries. Today I wrote the code for finding the weighted midway point between any 2 plate cores, and filtering out those that shouldn't be drawn because they are too far away or another plate is between them.

    Now all I have to do is figure out how which Voronoi centroids to connect with which midpoints. I don't think that will be too difficult, once I add the filtering code to the Voronoi centroids so that I know which ones should be used and which should be thrown away. I currently can't do that because I was filling in all the Voronoi centroids, even for plates on opposite sides of the planet. The filter should make it easy. (I hope)
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    Here is a partially-completed version. The midway and centroid pts are scaled by the weights, but the lines themselves are not yet. But, it does show the algorithms are roughly correct. Wheeee!!!

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    Some tangible progress at last. I used Excel charts to build the general algorithms, but they reached their practical limit before I finished, so I've started down the ImageMagick path. It took a few days, but I finally figured out how to send commands to ImageMagick to create an image file. Unfortunately the direct connection method from VBA didn't work, so I have my macros exporting to a text file that ImageMagick can process and turn into an image.

    I need to work on the algorithms a bit more, now that I can actually see some output from the work. So keep an eye on this thread for more details in the next couple of weeks.
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    Here is an output from the process. Only 6 continental plates this time, because one of the changes I need to make is some intelligence on the random placement of plate cores. It is quite happy to have overlapping plate cores, which causes all kinds of havoc with the map formulas. Being done in Excel VBA it does take a while to create a large map, doing it one pixel at a time, but what the hey.

    As you can see, there are still some weird looking stuff in it, definitely not realistic continental plate shaped. That's okay for now. That's just that the math concept that's been solely in my head until now still needs some tweaking, and the lack of any rules on plate core placement. Hopefully some tweaking here and there can resolve those.

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    The brown, btw, indicates a 'lower density' plate that would have a continent on it. Mind you, I hadn't quite envisioned a plate ever being quite that shape... I think those will disappear with more plates being thrown into the mix.
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    Assuming I stick with fantasy cartography, I'd like to become a World Builder, laying out not only a realistic topography, but also the geopolitical boundaries and at least rough descriptions of the countries and societies.

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