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    Well, hexes are primarily a convention used in gaming to regulate movement (and quickly judge distance, LoS, etc.) If they're not doing you any good for that purpose (e.g. you're getting multiple systems per hex or something) then they're not much use to you. You could ditch them altogether...though I assume you want them since they're in the title of the thread!

    Or, what about using 1 ly hexes? You're pretty sure to only get one system per hex that way (assuming you take some liberties when considering stars with similar x and y but different z coords). It makes for a bigger map, of course, and messier. Seems like the original Traveller hexes were 1 pc?

    Another possibility: number the hexes and leave the system labels off the map, putting them into a separate key instead. That would clean it up a bit. If you had two systems in a hex you could note that in the key. Just a thought. I frankly like my labels to be on the map, but this worked for pretty well for GDW.

    I really dig your avatar. Mistakenly clicked on your username when trying to click on the thread title the first time I looked here...when I saw your avatar I got excited that you were doing a hex map in that style or something (yeah, I notice now that it's an octagon!) What if you made it with really large hexes, containing multiple systems on different elevations? If you did it like your avatar it'd sure be nice to look at.
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    While I 've never tried to build a 3D star map, I've considered creating a color coded 'depth guide', using ROYGBIV where red is closest to map view, and violet is furthest away. The hexes themselves have lines colored for the appropriate depth. Even if most of your systems are within the same 'red' zone, systems further away have varying colors to denote depth from the front plane of the map. Although as stated, I've never tried this (never been interested star maps anyway), it does seem to be able to be used for depth. (But then all the different color hexes could make the map complicated to read.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mearrin69 View Post
    Well, hexes are primarily a convention used in gaming to regulate movement (and quickly judge distance, LoS, etc.) If they're not doing you any good for that purpose (e.g. you're getting multiple systems per hex or something) then they're not much use to you. You could ditch them altogether...though I assume you want them since they're in the title of the thread!
    Yes, this is an exploration in possible Travelleresque star maps. I could just go with a 2d map at a an arbitrary resolution and be done with it; but hexes ARE a fairly convenient method to work with distances.

    Quote Originally Posted by mearrin69 View Post
    Or, what about using 1 ly hexes? You're pretty sure to only get one system per hex that way (assuming you take some liberties when considering stars with similar x and y but different z coords). It makes for a bigger map, of course, and messier. Seems like the original Traveller hexes were 1 pc?
    Yeah, Traveller had 1pc.

    I thought of using 1ly, it'll give much more detail than Traveller had - though you'd still have to lose the z-Axis of course. It will limit the total size of the entire are covered though.

    Quote Originally Posted by mearrin69 View Post
    Another possibility: number the hexes and leave the system labels off the map, putting them into a separate key instead. That would clean it up a bit. If you had two systems in a hex you could note that in the key. Just a thought. I frankly like my labels to be on the map, but this worked for pretty well for GDW.
    Yes, thought of that. Didn't like it, because the map loses a lot of essential information that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by mearrin69 View Post
    I really dig your avatar. Mistakenly clicked on your username when trying to click on the thread title the first time I looked here...when I saw your avatar I got excited that you were doing a hex map in that style or something (yeah, I notice now that it's an octagon!) What if you made it with really large hexes, containing multiple systems on different elevations? If you did it like your avatar it'd sure be nice to look at.
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    Thanks, and, I can oblige you I think. Just a quick mockup of course:
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    I don't like black background maps though. As art pieces, yes, but not for actual use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamerprinter View Post
    While I 've never tried to build a 3D star map, I've considered creating a color coded 'depth guide', using ROYGBIV where red is closest to map view, and violet is furthest away. The hexes themselves have lines colored for the appropriate depth. Even if most of your systems are within the same 'red' zone, systems further away have varying colors to denote depth from the front plane of the map. Although as stated, I've never tried this (never been interested star maps anyway), it does seem to be able to be used for depth. (But then all the different color hexes could make the map complicated to read.)
    Yeah, I've seen a lot of attempts to do 3d maps. None of them really work. Colors are always a problem because there are a lot of color blind people out there (10% of all males had red green color blindness). IMO easy solutions are best; just note z-Axis in brackets near the star name label and you're done. For any actual game-play, though, I am beginning to think that the z-Axis adds more hassle than it is worth.

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