thanks guys, yeah I know it's up to the DM to make it happen but normally the 1PD's have some more info/background on them. The good IMO thing about isometric (indeed Kearnaum dungeons is that you get some idea on what the actual dungeon looks like in space. @TheREdEpic: it's a real fun yearly challenge, hosted by Alex Schroeder. I'm afraid this years deadline has just passed, but I'd love to see your awesome work in the contest as well! Usually Alex posts some announcement here in the news forum around februari/march. cheers, DJ