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    Something to do with the person fighting down the stairs having more room to manuoevre his sword arm, isn't it? So if you're going up the stairs it turns right making it more difficult to use your sword.

    Nice makeover Torq, about time you posted a tutorial with that technique of the rocks and grass.

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    I think it is the other way around, and there is no "up" and "down" on stairs unless they move on their own accord.

    The idea is that the defender is higher and can use the center of the spiral along with a shield to have overwhelming defense while having the larger arc of the outside wall to swing a sword and maneuver a longer weapon such as a short spear.

    Of course if you are left handed things don't work out quite right.
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    Yep - used to tour guide in a castle. If B is upstairs and A is downstairs it is correct. Stairs rise clockwise.

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    Thanks for the suggestions guys. Love what you did with the map, Torq. I'll be definately giving that a try. As for windows/slits... that will be on the 2nd level. Ground level was suppose to be just solid walls. At least that was my plan. As for the stairs, to be honest I didn't even think about it. My original idea was they both went up but now I have something to think about. I think I will go with torstan's comment and have B = upstairs and A = downstairs. Thanks again for the links and suggestions.
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    Very nice, classic design. I love maps where I can believe they would actually be built. Fantastic, improbable elements, have their place but believability wins out in the end IMHO. A good design makes me think "Castles like this would exist" - makes presenting them, much, much easier.


    I actually prefer Turgenev's version where all the elements have the same treatment. To do the outside without showing kindness to the inside of the tower creates an odd sense of imbalance.

    SO, I added a tiny touch to the inside of the tower. A pattern and a complimentary drop shadow - to match the outside.

    Torg's mod of Turg's map modded by someone whose name doesn't start with "T"
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    Clockwise going down...



    (BTW - nice castle map !)

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    Nice flipped picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Very nice, classic design. I love maps where I can believe they would actually be built. Fantastic, improbable elements, have their place but believability wins out in the end IMHO. A good design makes me think "Castles like this would exist" - makes presenting them, much, much easier.
    My version was based on a real castle - Restormel castle in Cornwall, England. I switched some of the rooms and their sizes but the basic shape is the same.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restormel_Castle

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    I actually prefer Turgenev's version where all the elements have the same treatment. To do the outside without showing kindness to the inside of the tower creates an odd sense of imbalance.

    SO, I added a tiny touch to the inside of the tower. A pattern and a complimentary drop shadow - to match the outside.

    Torg's mod of Turg's map modded by someone whose name doesn't start with "T"
    That's pretty cool. I did see one minor thing that didn't work for me (sorry Torq)... that big rock in the moat, while it looks nice, it wouldn't make sense from a strategic p.o.v..

    This is a quick post - I can't wait until I get a chance to work in Photoshop tonight.
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    Wip How about the Left Handed Kerrs?

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    Of course if you are left handed things don't work out quite right.
    Actually these was an infamous Scottish clan in the border country, the Kerrs, who were trained to fight with their left hand, which gave them an advantage when assaulting the English within clockwise spiral stairs of their own towers. With right-handed defensive posture, normally the right-handed attackers are placed in a disadvantage to the defenders.

    But the Left-Handed Kerrs - broke this standard defensive advantage, and were hated for it!

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