I'd make the foliage transparent or an optional extra on the map. As it stands, any player who walks under the tree is going to look like he's flying. That will break the spell a little.
I'd make the foliage transparent or an optional extra on the map. As it stands, any player who walks under the tree is going to look like he's flying. That will break the spell a little.
I played around with it a bit and this is what I got.
(For comparison, here is the original "Transparent Foliage" map from my first post
I tried simply making the foliage more translucent, and got this:
I'm not sure how I fell about this one - it seems that the foliage blends in to the ground too much. So, I tried outlining the foliage and got this:
I think outlining the foliage has potential, but I'm not certain I like this execution of the idea. I'm going to have to play around with it some more...
I think both have there advantages. I guess the question really is whether the players need to know the extent of the tree's canopy? I can think of no situation where this is necessary. Therefore the tree canopy is just pretty, not useful. What is useful is knowing where the stream is, or a rock that can be used for cover, or difficult terrain. From that point of view I like the first of the two you posted. I can see that the tree canopy is there, but I can also see what the terrain is doing. I don't see a need for outlining the canopy.
The tree on the left has a 20' wide trunk and the tree on the right has a 10' wide trunk, if these are 5' squares. That seems spectacularly large for any tree I've ever seen. Not sure if this was intentional.
You're right - typically the exact location of the canopy isn't too relevant to an encounter. However, the encounter I'm putting this map together for has a bunch of goblins hiding the in branches of the trees, waiting to ambush the players as they set up camp for the night. So, I anticipate that the players will want to know how far out the branches extend. Of course, this is part of the utility of these computer maps - it's trivially easy for me to adjust it to my needs.
They're intended to be old oak trees, but, at these sizes, they would also work as, say, weeping willows, or even small baobab trees.
Thanks for the comments!
I still think that 20' wide is a little steep for the trunk.
I see why you need the canopy for this encounter. I think you've got a good balance with that last map with the more subtle outline. Looks to me like a pretty functional (as well as pretty in and of itself) map. Good work.
What program are you going to be using these with?
Yeah, I've been poking around online a bit and I think you're probably right. I found a reference online to what is purported to be the largest oak tree of record which had a diameter of only about 10 feet. However, 20 foot diameters aren't completely beyond the realm of possibility. For example, here's a picture of the largest of the small forest of baobab trees in southern Oman (for scale, that's me in the red shirt, and I'm about 6'3".) I'm not sure of the exact diameter of this tree, but I'm guessing its at least 20 feet. And, I'm told, the baobabs in Oman are much smaller than those in Africa and Australia.
In any case, it's not too far out of the realm of imagination that a particular fantastic world may have extraordinarily large trees.
Thanks! I appreciate your comments. What do you think of the colors?
I'm using GIMP, basing my techniques on the tutorial RobA put together for artistic regional maps a few months back.
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Yep. Baobabs are a good example. I saw one on the salt flats of Botswana that was definitely over 20' wide. just assumed that these were standard deciduous trees and thought the trunks were a bit huge. If you want them to be unusually proportioned for whatever reasons them I'm definitely not going to stop you.
I like the colour scheme - it's very clear.
I realise you are using Gimp - I was just wondering whether you were going to drop the image into a virtual tabletop program when you play a game on it?
Wow, that is one ginormous tree. It makes me sad to think of the amazing things like this that are out there in the world that I haven't yet had a chance to see...
One of the things I like about fantasy worlds is the possibility for outlandishly huge trees. I remember reading a book where a civilization had built cities high up and inside the trunks of these supermassive trees. I always dug on the concept after reading it.