Quote Originally Posted by TheHoarseWhisperer View Post
One of the problems with answering this question is that there is so much fantasy out there, and most of it is really bad. Because there is so much out there, though, peoples' preferences will vary widely. Below are a few recommendations from me, but my taste lies in books where the fantasy elements are subtle, but the worldbuilding is thorough and the story is atmospheric.

You could always start with the classics:
--Lord of the Rings (Tolkien)
--Narnia (Lewis)
--Gormenghast (Peake): this is a bit different to those above, as the fantasy elements are more subtly done. There is no magic or battles, or any of the things you'll find in other stories, so it might not appeal to many folks. It is, however, in my opinion, the best written of the classics, and the most imaginatively and evocatively realised.

I don't know the Mistborn series, but the Liveship Traders implies you like stories that unfold as sagas (not that there's anything wrong with that). Have you read Robin Hobb's other works of the Realm of the Elderlings: The Royal Assassin Trilogy and The Tawny Man Trilogy? There's also a recent series that she's working on (3 or 4 books published so far) also in that world, and a trilogy (I think it is called the Soldier Son trilogy) that is set in a different world with overtones of American colonial period (but also strong fantasy aspects). Lastly for her, you can try some of her works by her pseudonym, Megan Lindholm (she wrote two relatively small books about a shaman's apprentice in a pre-Colombian American culture). I personally get sick of Robin Hobb rather quickly, although I acknowledge she has some mastery of her art.

Ursula Le Guin is a great fantasy writer, and her Earthsea Trilogy is now a classic in its own right. It definitely comes highly recommended, although be aware that it also has a somewhat subdued (i.e. slow and subtle) aspect to it. I believe Le Guin's parents were anthropologists, and so the worlds she creates are often very culturally detailed. She's also done a few sci-fi works you may have encountered.

Diana Wynne Jones was a very prolific writer. None of her books are very serious or epic, but I find them really good to just settle into. Enjoyable, well-written, sometimes sad and sometimes funny. She also liked playing around with fantasy cliches, which can be enjoyable (also, for the humorous side to fantasy, it is hard to miss Terry Pratchett).

Cornelia Funke has written some good fantasy works: Reckless and Fearless both take place in a fantasy version of Europe, but one in which the modern age is starting to catch up.

Tanith Lee has a large number of engaging books you might want to try. A trilogy she wrote starting with Black Unicorn is very good (and you don't have to be a unicorn-fan to appreciate the series).

A recent favourite writer of mine is Frances Hardinge (Fly By Night being a great starting point). She, like Le Guin, enjoys inventing cultures, and seems to take great pleasure in exploring how worlds different to ours might work. Her attention to detail is magnificent.

Lastly, I'd like to mention One Hundred Years of Solitude, by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. It isn't really fantasy (it belongs to a genre called magic realism), but it is one of my favourite books, and it seems appropriate to mention it now, because Marquez has just passed away.

I don't know if any of those titles help you out. I, too, would like to see what other people recommend, and why.

THW
Yeah there's a lot of rubbish out there, hence me asking! In general I'd say I have pretty similar tastes, but then again the magic in Mistborn is very conspicuous, and it also works for me... it's so difficult to pinpoint what it is that makes you enjoy reading specific books. I doubt you'd like Mistborn if you actively dislike it when the fantasy elements are in your face - one of the biggest selling points is the in-depth and unusual magic system. However the worldbuilding is extremely detailed, and the story is compelling, so if it's more a preference for subtlety than a dislike of fireworks then you'd probably enjoy them!

I'd say I'm not too fussed either way actually, anything from novellas (or even short stories) to really long sagas is fine by me. Some of my favourite books are stand-alone novels (a couple of examples are A Canticle for Leibowitz and Flowers for Algernon, both of which are great sci-fi novels), and I didn't like any of the sequels of Dune despite loving the first book, so I'd say really it's just about whether or not the story interests me regardless of length. However, one problem I have is that I read fast - most books that I read take me under a couple of days to read (600-800 pages being the usual length) - so a more extended series lets me really get into it over an extended period without having to force myself to put the book down all the time.

I've read all the Real of the Elderlings books and liked them all to varying degrees. Liveships probably stands out for me because it's more complex and morally grey, and then the two trilogies centered on Fitz also come pretty close. Interestingly I hated the Soldier Son trilogy, they're literally the only books I've read that I couldn't bring myself to finish - so I get what you mean about getting sick of her writing, though it's weird that only this series caused that reaction in me. I've read a couple of her Lindholm short stories, and didn't really like the style or general subject matter at all.


Anyway, on to the books you've recommended!

LOTR: I read it about a decade ago (I was early teens). I think I loved it at the time, but I've been mening to go back and re-read it (and read The Hobbit as well) to see what I think of it now.

Narnia: I always thought these were more children's books? I've apparently lost the ability to enjoy stuff that's actively aimed at children - I used to love the Harry Potter books, but now I can't bear the writing style. Wonder if I'd feel the same about these.

Ursula Le Guin: Earthsea had been on my to-read list for years, finally read the first four books a few months ago. I found it a bit of and odd experience - I loved the world, liked the story, and would've probably thought they were great overall, but the pacing of the endings jolted me a bit. Compared to the pace throughout everything seemed to get wrapped up very suddenly, and in some ways the endings felt pretty contrived and left me left feeling realy underwhelmed at the end...

Diana Wynne Jones: Howl's Moving Castle is a book?! Must find out more...

Haven't heard of any of the others, I shall look them up and see which ones appeal to me most!


Quote Originally Posted by Eilathen View Post
Well, if you want to have well thought out worlds (as in "realistic", consistent and deep worldbuilding) and complex stories and are not afraid of the modern fantasy (aka not so much feel-good fantasy anymore these days, the best of fantasy atm is more in the vein of realistic and gritty), then you absolutely have to try out these two series:

Steven Erikson - Malazan Book of the Fallen (first book is Gardens of the Moon)

R. Scott Bakker - The Prince of Nothing (first book is The Darkness that comes before)

Both authors have very deep and consistent settings but are both quite gritty. Bakker is even grim and dark at times.
Erikson is unparalleled when it comes to worldbuilding (ok, Tolkien is still the king, but he is close) and his cultures are very realistic (no wonder as he is an anthropologist and archeologist). His work is epic and for me, all in all, the best there is atm.
Bakker has a very good grasp on the psychology of his characters. Also, as he has a PhD in philosophy, his work has philosophical influences and in-world philosophies. Bakker can definitely write! Although, in the end, writting style is a matter of taste. As i said, his world is quite a dark one. So if you are not a fan of the...darker aspects... of human life, i guess this is not for you.
They both definitely sound interesting, thanks

Quote Originally Posted by Slylok View Post
How about anything from M. Night Shayamalan.......LOL I couldn't help it
Lol I guess the fact that he makes movies and not books is a... twist?

Quote Originally Posted by Diamond View Post
I heartily second this one. Probably among the greatest settings and stories I've seen in 30+ years of reading fantasy.

I've read several books from Pyr publishing recently that are great - they really seem to be trying to make a name for themselves with new and innovative fantasy. Two of my favorites are 'The Barrow' by Mark Smylie (although it's probably not for everyone as it's loaded with some pretty deviant sex), and 'Blackdog' by K.V. Johansen. This second one has a great, seldom-seen central Asian/steppes setting and milleu, really great world-building.
Cool, they look good too!



Thanks all of you for the great replies so far, I still want more though - a long to read list makes a happy Raptori