January Challenge: Create a Map for Print!

[Redrobes]

I don't think people are making money from these maps. The prize is just a print of it. Its a fine line I admit and I know people got stopped from producing iced birthday cakes with disney characters on them. GP will print Annas maps and he has permission from Anna but the Greyhawk campaign world is owned. GP - does Anna have that permission or can we do 'own work' campaign world maps from books and similar stuff ?

[Gamerprinter]

The way Anna explained it to me - first know that Anna is from Sweden and their laws may be different compared to anywhere else, however, her renditions of Greyhawk is her work, not WotC. She owns them and WotC cannot stop her from creating them. Sharing her maps is different though, and the laws are a bit shakey on these grounds.

I am charging for the printing, laminating and shipping of the maps. I am not charging for the map itself - it is essentially being freely distributed. Money from sales is paying for the work in creating the print, not the map itself.

To those who own the maps, a price may be assigned for distributorship - in Anna's case however, she essentially wants to freely share her work with the world. If you order her maps, you are ordering the printing, not the map.

One cannot sell maps that one did not create, without permission from the creator.

If a client such as a member here orders a map to be printed. I am not charging them for their map, I am charging for the work of printing, finishing and shipping.

Although I do have publisher clients who have assigned a minimum surcharge over and above my map printing charges (which I pay them monthly), almost all the publishers work that I print, there is no surcharge - the maps are available freely, you just pay for the printed work.

I have an attorney and these issues have been discussed. In many ways the work that I offer sits outside the laws, in that the laws specifically apply to those taking ownership where they don't have the right. I am not taking ownership at all. I am only offering a print service.

Believe me, if WotC called for a cease and desist order on Anna's maps, I would stop immediately. Anna has tried to contact WotC, with no response.

That's where I sit in the legal issues involved here. So unless I'm told otherwise I will continue to offer Gamer Printshop services.

GP

[Redrobes]

Ok so doing a book map is ok for this challenge. Its important to me as this is looking like what I want to do. Own work completely but of a book map - not WotC in this case and I want to give the map out freely its never going to be charged for. Thats ok then yeah ?

[Gamerprinter]

Ok so doing a book map is ok for this challenge. Its important to me as this is looking like what I want to do. Own work completely but of a book map - not WotC in this case and I want to give the map out freely its never going to be charged for. Thats ok then yeah ?

Yes, you are not breaking any laws by creating a map used in another publication, as this is not for profit or distribution. And should the winner at the end of the month use published material, I will not include that in the Ecommerce site for distribution - for the reasons just discussed. The posting to my site for sales are only maps of original creations.

GP

[Hoel]

I'm going to post my first WIP for the challenge right now. What do I put in the title? "January Entry: Carlsborg 1890"?
I have figured out that i should put it in the current challenge board.
I guess I can edit the post if i do it wrong.

/Hoel -always fails his first attempt

[Gamerprinter]

Yes, Hoel, make sure that is your title: "January Entry:.... whatever you want to call it..."

Just create a new post, name it thusly and post your start map, that's it! Looking forward to your first challenge entry, Hoel!

GP

PS: boy this thread has had lots of posts since I posted it less than 24 hours ago, hopefully that's a good sign that we'll have lots of partipants this month, got my fingers crossed!

[Midgardsormr]

PS: boy this thread has had lots of posts since I posted it less than 24 hours ago, hopefully that's a good sign that we'll have lots of partipants this month, got my fingers crossed!

Well, I sure enjoyed receiving my Randland map this week, so I think I'll shoot for getting another one for my wall. And it might even be a CWBP map to boot! Unless I get brave enough to try a big city map Gandwarf-style. We'll see how I feel once I get back home and get started on it.

[Steel General]

Yes, you are not breaking any laws by creating a map used in another publication, as this is not for profit or distribution. And should the winner at the end of the month use published material, I will not include that in the Ecommerce site for distribution - for the reasons just discussed. The posting to my site for sales are only maps of original creations.

GP

OK, good I'm glad we got that straitened out. Because I was also thinking of doing a rendition of a map from a book.