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    Katerek,

    This is a nice start to a city map that you’ve made. The buildings are very sharply delineated and remind me of some of the better Harn city maps. I echo Gandwarf in both complementing you about the relief lines (which give a very good indication as to what levels are at what height) and frowning about the fields (which don’t mesh really well with the rest of the city).

    I did have a few brickbats from a realism/urban design perspective. A fantasy city can be laid out and take any shape that you want, but your city (or at least the start of it) seems less like a city and more a collection of loosely scattered streets and buildings plopped down willy-nilly without little thought for the overall design. That’s perhaps a bit harsh, but you might want to try a few things.

    First, a crude or rough grid that starts near the docks (which is likely where the settlement originated from) and thins out (or not if the island is really crowded) the further away from the docks that you are. I have no idea what the population of your city is, but if its in the tens of thousands, likely every available inch of space will be used. I don’t know what program (if any) you used to design your city, but it looks like that procedural program that was floating around the Guild a few months back. It’s a great program for laying roads along ridge lines, cow paths, etc., but not as useful for laying out a city on a island, in which space is very constrained.

    Take a look at Fogdown (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=3037) here on these boards by Redstar. Or take a look at the beautiful Freeport map by Andy Law (http://www.greenronin.com/freeport/2..._adventure.php). Or take a look at Yabusama’s incredible map of Lortenford at the (sadly now defunct) Gran March project (go to http://www.greyhawkonline.com/granmarch/, click on “Members pages” in the upper left and type in “bunionofvecna” at the prompt (all one word) and click on cartography, you’ll be able to get to the full sized map). In each case, you have port cities that are densely built up (and Fogdown and Freeport are both on islands) and have a rough street grid to them (Fogdown’s is perhaps a bit too gridlike for realism purposes, but its still a great map).

    Second, make sure that you have at least one market near where the docks are. Depending upon the size of your city, you might have two or three. It’s a good idea to also make your markets the nexus points of several roads.

    Third, I’d move what looks like your temple?/manor? cluster (buildings marked 1-8, 15, 30, 32, etc. on the map) and move it into the center of town if it’s the temple quarter. Urban temples and shrines in the ancient days (as well as churchs, masjids, and ashrams in the modern one) tend to be built near central points of a city so that they can easily be accessed by worshippers (there are many exceptions to this, but in general its true). Your temple cluster (if it is that) is somewhat out of the way. If it’s a cluster of noble buildings, I would still move it out of the way, as that area (looks like the highest on the island) seems ideal to locate a fortress, castle, or citadel. (I do like your idea of have the nobles/great merchants/high muckety mucks of the city on the heights and the lower riff raff closer to the sea—that feels natural)

    Fourth, speaking of fortresses or citadels, your city does not seem to have many military structures (or at least structures recognizeable as such). I have no idea how dangerous the waters around it are, but I would locate small fortresses or towers around the perimeter that could be fitted with ballistae or catapults (or provide a good vantage point for spellcasters) to drive off pirates or enemy fleets. Given the height or heights of most of the island, only the lower area near the docks and the water might actually have to be walled.

    Fifth, I would make sure that there is a warehouse district located near the docks. Shipping and fishing are the lifeblood of your settlement. There’s simply not enough space on the island to grow the crops needed to feed al or even most of the residents. Thus the docks (perhaps you might want to include a drydock or two) are very important and a storage area to hold all those goods and produce (even temporarily) is equally important. Take a look at the western side of Freeport to see what I am talking about, Mr. Law did a great job incorporating both fantasy and elements of realism into his map of Freeport.

    Concluding, you’re more than welcome to take my advice with a grain of salt. If your player’s are happy with the map that you already have, than stick with it. But if you want a location that is both memorable and pleasing to the eye, try out a few of my suggestions.
    Last edited by thebax2k; 05-05-2009 at 04:51 PM.

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