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    Quote Originally Posted by ravells View Post
    heh, Jaspertjie is dutch, I thought he was asking for a translation

    first of all, I asked for a CONLANG no NATLANG

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    ik ben
    jij bent
    hij is
    zij is
    het is

    wij zijn
    jullie zijn
    zij zijn
    dat was incompleet. Zie de toevoeging

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaspertjie View Post
    first of all, I asked for a CONLANG no NATLANG



    dat was incompleet. Zie de toevoeging
    So, you only want something here if it's from a complete conlang, or would a wip suffice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karro View Post
    So, you only want something here if it's from a complete conlang, or would a wip suffice?
    I think that he ironically meant that you had forgotten to translate the word "is".

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    Let me start by explaining that these sentences would never occur in Glyphica Arcana. However, since I'm working on that project I'll do my best to provide an adequate translation. Note, however, that nouns in GA are not marked for gender, so he/she/it are all the same symbol.

    (Note that the images are in svg as I haven't figured out how to import GA files into Inkscape to export to png.)

    {First person singular pronoun} exists: http://www.monticello21st.com/glyphi...Gly1stSing.svg

    {First person plural pronoun} exists: http://www.monticello21st.com/glyphi...Gly1stPlur.svg

    {Second person singular pronoun} exists: http://www.monticello21st.com/glyphi...Gly2ndSing.svg

    {Second person plural pronoun} exists: http://www.monticello21st.com/glyphi...Gly2ndPlur.svg

    {Third person singular pronoun} exists: http://www.monticello21st.com/glyphi...Gly3rdSing.svg

    {Third person plural pronoun} exists: http://www.monticello21st.com/glyphi...Gly3rdPlur.svg
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    I have a conlang on which I have been working for about a year now. It's intended to be nice sounding and have an alien feeling, it's a humanization of an etheric language spoken by the gods. Originally, it was just a naming language to be used to name the character souls, so that I could track them reincarnation to reincarnation. It's now much more than just a naming language. More importantly, it's my vehicle to amateurly learn about linguistics. So here goes my attempt to translate the op sentences.

    Godspeech (my conlang's name) does not have a copula ("to be" verb) per se. Most of the times, an adjective used as a verb is the way to translate copula-using sentences. The op sentences, exactly as they are, are untranslatable to Godspeech, so they must be translated by using other means.

    The following is a declaration of divine authority, identifying the subject as a divine lord. The subject is omitted in this example:
    Arbeja.
    [ˈaɾbɛʒa]
    arbe-ja
    I_am-IND.BL
    I am

    EDIT: BL: blunt. When spoken by a higher ranking being, the it's blunt. It's rude otherwise.

    A more complete sentence would be:
    Bagliun Edar arbeja.
    meaning "I am Lord Bagliun".
    The nickname I'm using in this board is a name of a character of mine who is one of the gods who speak the original etheric language on which Godspeech is based. Edar is a title meaning divine lord, Bagliun is his proper name, from bagli "to perceive" and -un meaning "doer" (not exactly).

    Godspeech limits the use of personal pronouns and discourages their usage. Personal pronouns are clitics for first and second persons only.
    Amēnjoabil.
    [ˈamɛːnʒɔˌabil]
    amēn-jo-abil
    ADJ-IND.POL-1SG.NOM
    I am

    Amēnjoamel.
    [ˈamɛːnʒɔˌamɛl]
    amēn-jo-amel
    ADJ-IND.POL-2SG.NOM
    You are

    Amēnjovam.
    [ˈamɛːnˌʒɔvam]
    amēn-jo-vam
    ADJ-IND.POL-1PL.NOM
    We are

    Amēnjother.
    [ˈamɛːnˌʒɔðɛɾ]
    amēn-jo-ther
    ADJ-IND.POL-2PL.NOM
    You are

    Word amēn is a pro-adjective. It takes a meaning given by the context in which it appears, so any of the above sentences mean "I/you/we am/are [anything defined by context]".

    The gods use noun phrases instead of pronouns more often; the third person cannot be supplied by pronouns, and must be provided with noun phrases. Noun phrases used for this purpose include the proper name of the person being spoken of, his title or profession, some kind of socially defined reference, or just "this (or that) person" when there is no other way.

    Abameurodo amēnjo.
    [ˈabamɛuˌɾɔdɔ ˈamɛːnʒɔ]
    abam-e-uro-do amēn-jo
    person-SG.DEF.MASC-1.this-TOP ADJ-IND.POL
    I am
    Lit. This person is.

    Abamearedo amēnjo.
    [ˈabamɛaˌɾɛdɔ ˈamɛːnʒɔ]
    abam-e-are-do amēn-jo
    person-SG.DEF.MASC-2.that-TOP ADJ-IND.POL
    You are
    Lit. That person is.

    Abameazomdo amēnjo.
    [ˈabamɛaˌzɔmdɔ ˈamɛːʒɔ]
    abam-e-azom-do amēn-jo
    person-SG.DEF.MASC-3.that-TOP ADJ-IND.POL
    He is
    Lit. That person is.

    Abamiazomdo amēnjo.
    [ˈabamiaˌzɔmdɔ ˈamɛːnʒɔ]
    abam-i-azom-do amēn-jo
    person-SG.DEF.FEM-3.that-TOP ADJ-IND.POL
    She is
    Lit. That person is.

    Izauazomdo amēnjo.
    [ˈizauaˌzɔmdɔ ˈamɛːnʒɔ]
    iza-u-azom-do amēn-jo
    thing-SG.DEF.NEUT-3.that-TOP ADJ-IND.POL
    It is
    Lit. That thing is.

    The word "iza" means "useful thing". To refer to a "useless thing" you use "izi", and similarly "izu" is equivalent to "trash".

    Abamjilurodo amēnjo.
    [ˈabamʒiluˌɾɔdɔ ˈamɛːnʒɔ]
    abam-jil-uro-do amēn-jo
    person-DU.DEF.MASC-1.this-TOP ADJ-IND.POL
    We are

    Abamjilaredo amēnjo.
    [ˈabamʒilaˌɾɛdɔ ˈamɛːnʒɔ]
    abam-jil-are-do amēn-jo
    person-DU.DEF.MASC-2.that-TOP ADJ-IND.POL
    You are

    Abamjirazomdo amēnjo.
    [ˈabamʒiɾazɔmdɔ ˈamɛːnʒɔ]
    abam-jir-azom-do amēn-jo
    person-DU.DEF.NEUT-3.that-TOP ADJ-IND.POL
    They are

    For the English plurals, there are far more choices in Godspeech to translate these three sentences. I chose to use the dual number for all three, and the neuter gender for the last one. Godspeech's table of noun inflections is quite big.
    Last edited by Bagliun Edar; 04-26-2014 at 02:33 PM.

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