Yea, I think I am going to give up on the isometric stuff for now, I find Im spending too much time with mapping instead of writing. Its a great addition, however and I plan to keep doing it to help flesh out and background my story lines. Ive figured out what I was doing wrong with the simple mountains tutorial by RoBA, so Im going back to a topview mapping style for now until I can afford a scanner, photoshop and a drawing tablet. Then I can start really defining my own style utilizing what I have drawn by hand. Thanks for the advice!