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    This looks good Immolate! The logos are a nice touch.
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    I really like both the new vineyards and the new trees.

    Also, I never mentioned it but one of my favorite parts of this entire map are the little buckets of color outside the dyer. Those tiny little details are what makes this one really special.

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    When you get all of your roofs done here's what I do to add a tad of variety...a layer of clouds yay. Make copies of all of your roof layers (not shadow layers) and merge them together, put the layer above any other roof layer, ctrl+click the layer in the layer stack, hide the layer, make a new layer, do some clouds in your fave colors (that can vary widely depending on what you want and the blend mode you want to use), then deselect. Delete the layer of copied roofs if you want. On a new layer you can start to fiddle with things like burn holes, broken bits, etc.
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    You know I love this map Immolate. The trees you have added look great!

    However, I now have a point of criticism. The layout of the buildings you have recently added within the western walled district looks a bit messy and does not convince me at all. There's too many alleys and space between buildings. Buildings also seem to have been thrown down, while in my experience there's a lot of structure to walled cities. I think a lot of those buildings should be sharing walls and be aligned to the roads.

    Looking at your map again I would also expect some of the industry to be located inside the city walls (the blacksmiths for example, but certainly the silversmith, it works with precious metals).
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    Agreed on the aspect of them normally being more crowded and less space between the buildings. That was something of a compromise I made to accommodate the signs. There are probably other, better ways of handling that. As far as the lack of orderly structure, I took some inspiration from a gorgeous model of a city called Lahore in Pakistan. It has kind of a beehive appeal to it with the layout dictated by geography and happenstance, although it is as you suggest much more compact. (I would love to have a hundred of these models in a huge size )

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    Beautiful model...
    To my eye there's still a lot of structure. The houses form blocks penned in by roads and the buildings are mostly aligned to them.
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    Again with the forest, although this time I'm not sure that I didn't go too far. This is a four-tier forest instead of two. I didn't have a lot of time to work tonight as I was busy packing for a trip tomorrow. Honestly I'm not sure how much time I'll have while I'm away but I'll be back by Thursday. I'm counting on the weekend to finish.

    Thanks and, as always, your suggestions are invaluable to me.

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    I'm loving this map! The detail is amazing.

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    Hey just somthing I noticed while droo... Admiring your map. The wall that surounds the NW portion of the city runs over the towers at the roughly 12 o-clock and 9 oclock possitions.


    Great map, wishes I had just half your talent

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    Quote Originally Posted by shantedracule View Post
    Hey just somthing I noticed while droo... Admiring your map. The wall that surounds the NW portion of the city runs over the towers at the roughly 12 o-clock and 9 oclock possitions.


    Great map, wishes I had just half your talent
    Ah thanks for the catch Shantedracule, another artifact of layer merging that I will address forthwith, but it's been a long day since my 4am start today and I need to rest before being savaged by my client tomorrow morning, so I'll take care of it tomorrow.

    So no specific opinions about those trees and whether they've taken a turn for the worse? I have to tell you that I have some serious reservations after having craned my neck this morning on approach to Dulles so that I could study the trees from various altitudes. One thing I noticed was that in mixed deciduous/coniferous environments, the conifers tend to be a significant minority, although I expect the balance to shift further north. I'm not sure an even split between the two would ever be typical. Also, I saw no examples of a forest that you could see through unless the trees had been thinned by man for development.

    Another thing that struck me: at 35,000 feet, the forests are by far the most prominent feature of the landscape below, and they are sharp and well-defined, and their drop shadows are clear. That is a much lower scale than 1px=1ft but it is instructive. I'll have to Google Earth something at 35,000 and see what the scale is. FYI it was a clear day and the low angle of the sun would have exaggerated the shadows. We landed about 10:15 Eastern.

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