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    The Geopolitics were pretty much 'made-up'.

    For example, I envisioned the area I did, the Thanelands of Skoldavia, as somewhat Norse with maybe a little Celtic/Saxon infusion. That's my area, but that doesn't mean that is the predominant theme of the land. The Plaguelands to me seem a little more Germanic in feel, while further south more Arabic.

    Again, this is just my feelings on it.
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    http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=1769 has a general discussion of the base map

    I did an example of the size and placement of the area when placed on a globe. It still amuses me that the southernmost areas of that map are about at the latitude of Moscow. Be sure to click on the images in my post on that thread because the placement and size examples are animated GIFs that fade from the base map to a real-world map.

    The map was done using the default terrain generator in Fractal Terrains (it's a simple noise-based generator with no attempt to be "physically correct"). Seeing yet another generic FT map prompted me to write up the tutorial at http://www.ridgenet.net/~jslayton/CGTutorial/ but it was already too late.
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    The area being worked falls within a bounding box of
    WEST LONGITUDE=40.900618° E
    NORTH LATITUDE=64.514710° N
    EAST LONGITUDE=80.466861° E
    SOUTH LATITUDE=30.922578° N
    COVERED AREA=4278335 sq mi
    give or take a bit, I've been awake to long to nudge much in Global Mapper to get much more accurate. I posted a pick, ( in wagnerhammer, joost cause oi loike it).
    here, because I couldn't find the ones done by Waldronate, he beat me to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldronate View Post
    http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=1769 has a general discussion of the base map

    I did an example of the size and placement of the area when placed on a globe. It still amuses me that the southernmost areas of that map are about at the latitude of Moscow. Be sure to click on the images in my post on that thread because the placement and size examples are animated GIFs that fade from the base map to a real-world map.

    The map was done using the default terrain generator in Fractal Terrains (it's a simple noise-based generator with no attempt to be "physically correct"). Seeing yet another generic FT map prompted me to write up the tutorial at http://www.ridgenet.net/~jslayton/CGTutorial/ but it was already too late.
    Not, sure, I checked that thread and you have this image with the CWBP world become super imposed with the Earth and......Italy shows as being located at the equator. Watch the world change. Also, Africa's Cape Horn and Torq's home seem to be located at the south pole

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    ::reads tutorial::

    That is the coolest software in the entire world. WOW. Also, the world you developed in the tutorial looks quite nice.

    OK, so this territory is roughly Scandinavian. That changes my plans somewhat climate-wise, that's for sure...this is very useful.

    Maybe you should apply a bit of the basin-fill/erosion to the original cooperative world map? Although I guess everyone's kind of doing their own landscape weathering on their segment, based on what I've seen.

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    Yep, I completely messed up those globes. I believed the perspective globe projection that Google Earth was showing without realizing it was a perspective rather than orthographic projection.

    In the other thread I dumped the size comparison globe and redid the position comparison one to be in the same projection for both maps. It's not all arctic, just the inland northern areas.

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    Oh, I see. Crap, now I'm confused again.

    Maybe I'll move all the relevant reference maps onto the Wiki if no-one objects?

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    Octopod, here are two png files, on the CWBP with the current bounds marked, and one realworld imagery with the current bounds marked. Lat and Long as well.
    Both are in Platte Caree, referenced to top right -180,90 bottom left 180, -90
    Maybe this will help.
    Of course real world parallels all depend on axial tilt and so on, I don't know if that was ever delved into, or do we even dare.
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    Well, pulling up the world files, I can tell you the following:

    CWBP is:

    Highest point: 30000 feet
    Lowest point: -30000
    Equatorial Circumference: 25200 miles
    Percent Sea: 61
    Axial Tilt: 20°
    Planetary temperature Model
    Albedo: 0.3
    Light: 1 Sun
    Greenhouse 1.1

    Earth:
    Highest Point: +/- 29000 feet (various sources list different altitudes for Everest)
    Lowest Point: 35,838 feet (Mariana Trench, Pacific Ocean)
    Equatorial Circumference: 24,899 miles
    Percent Sea: @ 70%
    Axial Tilt: varies between 22.1° and 24.5°
    Planetary temperature Model
    Albedo: 0.3
    Light: 1 Sun
    Greenhouse 1.1

    So, this planet is a little larger than Earth, with a little bit more land and less sea, and a higher 'arctic circle', so this means the tropics are the same, but the warmer temperatures creep just a little further north. Not a lot further, but just a little.
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    Thanks very much -- I was actually not sure what projection we were using, so this clears up a great deal. I'd already worked out that square (by typing it into Google Maps! haha) but it's good to be able to refer to it like this.

    Well, the other thread said that the axial tilt of the world was 20 degrees, so that puts the polar circles for our world at 70 degrees latitude north and south.

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