A response from the highest authority =) I have seen some of those threads, as well as the tutorials on the new site. Had not seen the last one you posted, so I will definitely look it over to see if my answer lies there. Thank you for replying! I probably will be coming back with more questions however. One of these days I'm going to have to try out fractal terrains.... I did download the trial, but then ended up not having the time to try it out before the trial ended.... and there was SO much to learn in it haha