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    Quote Originally Posted by Greason Wolfe View Post
    Gotta ask cause I am having no luck finding it so far, which projection is this or which projection is it most similar to? I've seen it before and always liked it for some reason.

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    Edit: Or am I just not seeing it as a simple orthographic because of all the extra little touches to make it look prettier on the whole? ( Wanders off to scratch head for a bit, sure that he is over complicating things)
    Closest I can find is Nicolosi Globular https://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/gpro...Globular2H.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminGPointer View Post
    Closest I can find is Nicolosi Globular https://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/gpro...Globular2H.png
    Yeah, after digging through G.Projector, I thought maybe that or the stereographic two-hemisphere were the closest. As I said, always had kind of a soft spot for that projection for some reason but never knew which it was.

    Those are some great images BTW. Hope we will get to see some more when you have a chance to post them.
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    The projection on that map should be Stereographic, not Nicolosi. The angles in the upper latitudes are wrong for Nicolosi, but right for Stereographic (shown below):
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    Stereographic also unprojects as expected (the map was a little twisted and I didn't want to fiddle with straightening it, so it's not quite perfect):
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldronate View Post
    The projection on that map should be Stereographic, not Nicolosi. The angles in the upper latitudes are wrong for Nicolosi, but right for Stereographic (shown below):
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    Stereographic also unprojects as expected (the map was a little twisted and I didn't want to fiddle with straightening it, so it's not quite perfect):
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    Ah well spotted! I knew the angles were wrong with the Nicolosi, but all the examples of Sterographic I found had the poles in different places, so I couldn't compare.

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    I love the old maps (have you ever heard of the carta marina?) because of the awesome sea monsters and the strange creatures and strange demigods in the borders. I know, kinda weird.

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    Stereographic is pretty common on older maps because it has some nice properties, of which the best is that it's easy to calculate and draw. I have also done that composite stereographic dual-hemisphere projection and am very familiar with its appearance.
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    This one came in recently and I just had to share it! It's from 1532 and, aside from being beautiful, is really interesting. It's not the kind of projection I would expect from this early, focusing on the poles, and even though it shows the Americas as genuinely the "West Indies" with Florida just along the coast from Catay, and the shape of Scandinavia is clearly still a mystery to the cartographer, it shows Antarctica complete with the larger and smaller landmasses (although it would need to be rotated for them to be in the right place). I just thought it was really cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminGPointer View Post
    This one came in recently and I just had to share it! It's from 1532 and, aside from being beautiful, is really interesting. It's not the kind of projection I would expect from this early, focusing on the poles, and even though it shows the Americas as genuinely the "West Indies" with Florida just along the coast from Catay, and the shape of Scandinavia is clearly still a mystery to the cartographer, it shows Antarctica complete with the larger and smaller landmasses (although it would need to be rotated for them to be in the right place). I just thought it was really cool!

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    Stunning map!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickPea View Post
    Stunning map!
    You too can have one for only $54 500 ( https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/det...t-edition-fine ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by waldronate View Post
    You too can have one for only $54 500 ( https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/det...t-edition-fine ).
    What a bargain! If only I had that much free cash lying around .

    Really amazing maps here though (thanks for sharing them!). They are giving me tons of inspiration.
    I like how the map of Lima(?) had fields on the interior of the walls. That is not something that we see on maps around here usually and I wonder how common it used to be.

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