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    Quote Originally Posted by Literalmn View Post
    Just another fan heaping praise your way. An awesome tribute for an answer story.
    I've never heard of the "answer story" genre before.

    Howebeit, the point (of awesomeness) remains.
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    Curses! Foiled by the browser's spell checker. And not proofreading.

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    I've never heard of the "answer story" genre before.

    Howebeit, the point (of awesomeness) remains.

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    That's a tremendously beautiful map. I'm one of the founders of Westeros.org (and have done most of the work in regards to things like the Concordance) and I do think you'll find it useful for some of the details. We're currently contracted to co-author The World of A Song of Ice and Fire with George, and could certainly point the map out to him if you haven't done so yourself (though he's soon off to Worldcon).

    I made my own stab at a map of Westeros (purely in a graphics program, Campaign Cartographer is beyond me), which is think the most complete that currently exists, incorporating all information from all the maps. It's a poor, sorry thing next to your own, but it might have some additional details you'd like to incorporate.

    It can be found here (you can click on the image to expand it to full size). I believe I have the same issue in regards to Sun House/Sunflower Hall, something I need to see about, but otherwise I think it's fairly accurate.

    We host a number of fan-created maps of Westeros there, and I think we'd be very pleased if we could host your own map (or provide a thumbnail and link through to your own site) should you be interested when you've finalized it. If you'd like to discuss it, you can contact me at webmaster@westeros.org

    Oh, one detail that immediately springs to mind is the location of Starfall. GRRM's stated that it's in fact an island. I think I'd nudge your symbol for it just a smidge to the left, as there's a bit too much land showing between it and the river currently. And now that I think of it -- and this is just a suggestion -- but I think introducing more red into the Dornish mountains would be a good idea. The "red mountains of Dorne" are one of the first geographic details we have of that region. And for that matter, representing the more arid, desert climate of Dorne (much as you've shown the colder, more icy climate of the far North) could help provide some additional color and contrast while at the same time better representing the geography.

    Really impressive work, Tear. Quite amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balerion View Post
    I made my own stab at a map of Westeros (purely in a graphics program, Campaign Cartographer is beyond me)...
    You can't do that with Campaign Cartographer - no knock against that program, but the level of beauty portrayed here is just a level above and beyond what can be done with that, from everything I've seen. Work like this requires two things that Tear obviously has: (1) Skill & Talent and (2) a graphic/photo editor a bit more powerful than CC (in Tear's case, apparently, Photoshop).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balerion View Post
    That's a tremendously beautiful map. I'm one of the founders of Westeros.org (and have done most of the work in regards to things like the Concordance) and I do think you'll find it useful for some of the details.
    Thank you. It's nice to get to know the guy who wrote all the fiddly bits I have been reading recently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balerion View Post
    We're currently contracted to co-author The World of A Song of Ice and Fire with George, and could certainly point the map out to him if you haven't done so yourself (though he's soon off to Worldcon).
    Feel free to point it out to him if you want to. This is just a fan project, after all. I didn't write an e-mail myself, yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balerion View Post
    I made my own stab at a map of Westeros (purely in a graphics program, Campaign Cartographer is beyond me), which is think the most complete that currently exists, incorporating all information from all the maps.
    Your map was a great help trying to nail all the locations down!
    Some of mine might be a tad speculative, but they are at least supported by your writing.
    In cases where I was too unsure, I didn't add anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balerion View Post
    I believe I have the same issue in regards to Sun House/Sunflower Hall, something I need to see about, but otherwise I think it's fairly accurate.
    I just thought the location should either be a town called "Sun House" or a castle called "Sunflower Hall", because it's actually both, apparently.
    Since the seat of the house seemed more important to me than a small, insignificant town, I went for the latter.
    I made a similar decision concerning The Red Dunes / Vaith in Dorne.
    Also, the name of Sea Road / Ocean Road was a bit unclear.
    I am thankful for any help .

    Quote Originally Posted by Balerion View Post
    We host a number of fan-created maps of Westeros there, and I think we'd be very pleased if we could host your own map (or provide a thumbnail and link through to your own site) should you be interested when you've finalized it. If you'd like to discuss it, you can contact me at webmaster@westeros.org
    No problem at all. You can host it if you want to. As I said earlier, this is a fan project, nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balerion View Post
    Oh, one detail that immediately springs to mind is the location of Starfall. GRRM's stated that it's in fact an island. I think I'd nudge your symbol for it just a smidge to the left, as there's a bit too much land showing between it and the river currently.
    Ah, thanks. That's some valuable information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balerion View Post
    And now that I think of it -- and this is just a suggestion -- but I think introducing more red into the Dornish mountains would be a good idea. The "red mountains of Dorne" are one of the first geographic details we have of that region. And for that matter, representing the more arid, desert climate of Dorne (much as you've shown the colder, more icy climate of the far North) could help provide some additional color and contrast while at the same time better representing the geography.
    Good point. I used a slight reddish tint for Dorne, but now that I'm looking at it again, it's probably too weak. I'll make sure it's more intense in the next version.

    Thank you for all the help. I'm open for all suggestions.
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    It's ridiculously beautiful. I don't know what details to praise, because everything just works so well together. It's just fun to explore.

    I took your text label style and used it in a recent map myself, so thanks for the inspiration there.
    Alas, my website features music, not maps. I do have a portfolio of some other things, though.

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