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-Rob A>

*smacks himself on forehead* Duh! I should've known that, I use them all the time at work. Thanks...

@Midgardsormr - Very true, I had forgotten that fact. God my mind is going softer than a overripe bannana

[Redrobes]

I surf with firefox and noscript so most javascript does not run. The thing is that I cant find any other way to get at certain properties like the screen size of the browser being used to look at a page.

I use perl based CGI scripts for my web site and program it with a text editor - often wordpad. I keep reading on EnWorld about whats the best web layout editor to use and some of us keep saying notepad. The guy almost always says "well I decided to use xxxx" - some bloated over the top editor like front page or something and then continues - "but it keep shafting my page layouts". Well yeah - naturally.

So its notepad, CSS and perl for me with the barest minimum of javascript that I can get away with though I can see why people would want to use PHP too.

I test against the W3C tester code and if it looks good on Firefox I am happy. If IE is alright then bonus but if not then get a proper browser.

[RobA]

woohoo - my first every multiquote!

I'd steer clear of javascript. As the article points out, many people surf with it turned off (myself included) to limit the damage a hostile web site can do to their computers.

CGI also has problems: poorly designed code can open security holes on the server. Hosts tend to frown on that sort of thing, so CGI access is not generally granted unless you beg for it and can present a reasonable need for it.

I use CSS to manage my layouts and a utility with global find/replace whenever I need to make an update to navigation. Notepad++ was the one I used most recently. Not the most elegant way to go about it, but it's suitable for someone with my limited understanding of PHP. Someday I'll bone up on more dynamic solutions, but for now my manual approach is working okay.

My web site uses php and smarty templating for managing the layout. Lets me provides nice dynamic content with no (ok, minimal, and just for bells and whistles) javascript.

*smacks himself on forehead* Duh! I should've known that, I use them all the time at work. Thanks...

No problem. We all suffer from tlamnesia* every now and then.

(*forgetting what a tla, or three letter acronym stands for. On that note, the biggest problem since Y2K is coming soon... TLA-2010. That is when we, the **BBG, are predicting that all TLAs will run out, causing mass confusion and panic. Similar to the way that IPV4 is being extended into IPV5, we are proposing "TLA4" the official extension of all TLAs into four letter TLAs.
(**Big Brain Guys, AKA*** BBG-A under the proposed TLA4 extension plan...)
(***AKA will soon be superceded by AKA-A under the proposed TLA4)
)

I surf with firefox and noscript so most javascript does not run. The thing is that I cant find any other way to get at certain properties like the screen size of the browser being used to look at a page.

Noscript is the best firefox extension in existence. Period.

-Rob A>

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I'd look for a DHTML or maybe FLASH menu of some kind, there's plenty free ones out there. All depends on how much work you want to put into it.