yeah exactly, i don't want to create one big random map that will be the same every game, i want to create a new map for each game... i don't think plugging in to gimp (if thats even possible) to build a map would be worth it...

but what your talking about ascension is what i was looking for, mostly the way in which they work out how to create continents, where to put the mountains, rivers, forests, fields, etc etc and all that...