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    temples seen to be inspiring these days tonight i was practising my ISO skills (I always have a hard time creating them so thought lets get some more experience in it) and drew a temple complex. I drew it sort of out my head and guess I should have used a grid to make it more 3d-consitent (now why doesnt PS have 3d grid aids, or maybe someone knows about some 'hidden' feature? Though maybe when i start painting it over, I can correct the (many) 3d-flaws...
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    If you want it true 3d then you'd have to do it in a 3d program. Personally, I like your version better...has more character. Sure, the obelisks lean in odd ways but not that bad. I think it's cool.
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    That's really cool. My only wish would be that the view had been pulled back a little so the temple didn't get cut off at the bottom.

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    I like it so far, but do agree with rdanhenry about it getting 'clipped' at the bottom.
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    Thanks for the C&C guys. I guess indeed if one wants it truly 3d then one should use a 3d program I made a draft-version in sketch-up but wasn't really pleased with the result (too clean indeed, Ascension).

    I completely redid it to make it a little less flawed by using a grid. The map is for practising my iso skills so I guess am getting practise now Also pulled it back a lilttle ( think am gonne end the bottom-left with a wall/gatehouse and path down the mountain...)

    I first wanted to use 2-point-vanishing-point perspective but it got really messed up so I went back to a version with 2 infinite vanishing points. Because of the scale of the thing it should work I think... anyway, the result so far. I attached the draft Sketch-up and the latest hand-drawn version. cheers
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    I'm wondering if anyone has a pattern for a 3d grid? If you could overlay that on top then you'd be able to keep things lined up pretty well...not to mention that I'd snag a copy for myself to use
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    I attached the one I created for my 2-point vanishing point experiment. You can copy, scale and rotate it to create as many vanishing points as needed. For me it didn't work out as it's still hard to align to non-parallel lines using the 'shift' option in PS to create lines (ctrl-alt-z was my best friend during the experiment....) I tried paths but thats in my opinion not really a user-friendly option in PS. I didn't find a way to align a pencil stroke directly to a path (only drawing paths by using the 'stroke' option), but maybe i missed a very usefull function in PS (I know one can align text to directly to a path...). Also for real 'deep' 3d one would need a vanishing point way outside the picture requiring a much larger grid (with much mor lines in it) then the one I attached.

    For the inifinite vanishing points in my iso I just created a 'trashy' version in 2 mins. Draw three lines in a pleasable angle and copy them many times in different places (that's what i did but i didnt do it very clean so it looks kinda messy in the iso picture). Next time I draw an ISO I'll get it clean and post it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    I'm wondering if anyone has a pattern for a 3d grid? If you could overlay that on top then you'd be able to keep things lined up pretty well...not to mention that I'd snag a copy for myself to use
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    Thanks, Rob. Didn't see what I wanted there but the diamonds is pretty close so I can play around with that one and make it work.
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    Thanks Rob, it is a very useful site. However I couldn't find any grids on different Axonometric projection (maybe I didn't look right). Well, I had nothing better to do and Iwanted them anyway so I created some grids, 1 for iso-metric, 1 for dimetric projection (I like that bette then pure ISO) and one with 3 VP perspective (usefull for creating overland-icons). Oh btw there many sites but www.khulsey.com/perspective_basics.html is good site for some basics on projections. cheers
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