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    Quote Originally Posted by wormspeaker View Post
    If you haven't read 1984 yet, shame on you.
    Some people are just getting old enough to be held accountable to such a standard (and good luck doing the holding ). And new people keep getting born, so ... seriously, a spoiler is a spoiler for anyone who hasn't read the thing yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by töff View Post
    Some people are just getting old enough to be held accountable to such a standard (and good luck doing the holding ). And new people keep getting born, so ... seriously, a spoiler is a spoiler for anyone who hasn't read the thing yet.
    Haha.

    <spoiler>In the New Testament, Jesus dies.</spoiler>
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    Quote Originally Posted by wormspeaker View Post
    <spoiler>In the New Testament, Jesus dies.</spoiler>
    God! You ruined the whole New Testament for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by su_liam View Post
    God! You ruined the whole New Testament for me.
    You can still read it. No spoilers, but there's a twist at the end.
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    Im afraid I had to go with depressing. Although it started off well, I have to say that I was pretty disturbed for several days after watching the final ep.

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    It's not a spoiler if it comes so close to the beginning.

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    Or you could say the end is ... twisted.

    Or you could say we're still waiting for the end.

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    I've never read 1984, although I read a lot. Still, I know how to use the term "Orwellian" correctly and appreciate terms like big brother and newspeak sufficiently. When the concepts in a classic become pervasive enough in a culture, it is no longer necessary to read the book in order to understand the premise, although your personal context will be less uniform than those who have read the book.

    I did recently read "Atlas Shrugged", and I can tell you that it isn't a book that translates well into simple expressions and ideas, and has to be read to be fully appreciated. It is also a dark-future-ish novel, although in Rand's future, the wheels don't just wobble and squeal as they do in 1984, they completely fall off. Fair warning: it's a bit of a slog in parts. Galt's manifesto near the end is a marathon rant. I have a feeling that if Ayn ever starting harping on me, I would have to get up and leave after a few hours for my own sanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobA View Post
    I preferred The Fountainhead to Atlas Shrugged. Though both have very similar philosophies (the whole "virtue of selfishness" thing Rand espouses).
    I've read both but can't say I really like either. Both are tough reads. Orwell managed to make his bleak entertaining (to me anyway) if still depressing. Of course I tried to read The Fountainhead for the first time in fifth grade...alongside Brave New World IIRC. Way too early. I managed Animal Farm in the summer following second grade - but I had no idea what it was really about until I came back to it later on. Maybe I should reread some Rand...it has been a very long time since I gave her a shot (though I did read her last time as an adult so at least I understood it [mostly...lol] )
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